I can assure you that my 16 terminals run fine: 486DX4/100 with 16-24
Mb RAM and 1-2Mb of video RAM. My students use them daily, but then
again we're satisfied with 800x600/16bit, IceWM, nEdit, g++, opera
and a number of other tools with a small footprint.

CU


On 06-Feb-03 Cameron Lerch wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:58:27PM +0100,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> A terminal, like any PC, has at least two kinds of RAM: internal
>> memory and video memory. They each serve different purposes.
>> 
>> If a terminal solely acts as a terminal then it only needs an
>> amount
>> of internal memory that accomodates for the kernel and a RAM disk.
>> Usually 16-24 Mb will suffice. Please remember that all
>> applications
>> run on the server.
>> 
>> If you want or need high resolutions with lots of colors on such a
>> terminal then you have to add more memory to the video card. That
>> kind of RAM is solely used to store video output.
>> 
>> On the other hand, if (and *only* if !) you decide to run so
>> called
>> *local* applications then you will need lots of internal memory in
>> your terminal. That's because a *local* application is transferred
>> over to the terminal and executed there.
>> 
>> IMHO that kinda sums it up.
> 
> I must be missing the place where you account for the RAM X
> requires
> (and I'm not talking about just the fb like you suggest).
> 
> Please remember that X runs on the terminal.
> 
> Besides, I have presented proof of memory usage, not some false
> assumption like you have done.
> 
>> On 05-Feb-03 Cameron Lerch wrote:
>> > I would suggest more RAM. This completely depends on what you're
>> > doing,
>> > but for comparison purposes: I use P133 machines with 48MB ram
>> > and
>> > an
>> > 8mb PCI video card. I run them at 1024x768/16 bit in a Gnome 1 
>> > environment. I have s/w glx enabled, and use TTFs which are
>> > provided
>> > through XFS running on the server. I use gimp, StarOffice,
>> > mplayer,
>> > etc. I have found that memory gets low very often, and have
>> > since
>> > had
>> > to create some swap to solve lockup problems (NFS swap is slow,
>> > so
>> > it
>> > should be avoided). On one of the machines, I ended up taking
>> > out
>> > the
>> > 48MB and put 80MB in instead, and it now appears to be running
>> > much
>> > better.
>> > 
>> > X4 uses a lot of memory (especially if you're running at a
>> > decent
>> > resolution with glx, ttf, etc). I would say that most
>> > workstation
>> > memory estimates I've seen are a little low for a full blown
>> > desktop.

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Wouter DeBacker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
07-Feb-03    00:19:48    (SuSE Linux Xfmail)
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