libflashsupport is not even installed. I installed flashplugin-nonfree
and it just worked. No messing with nspluginwrapper or anything. In
fact, I didn't even know what libflashsupport was until just now, but
I can confirm it's not installed.

My server is running ubuntu 8.04 x86_64 and my client terminals are
pxe-booting the i386 image.

db

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Michael Blinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you've got flash sound on i386 terminals served from an amd64 8.04
> server? Can I assume you used libflashsupport, and it Just Worked?
> -Michael
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:01:45 -0600, "David Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> The slowness I was referring to has been reported with the non-himem
>> desktop kernel (see the link in my previous response), so if you're
>> already running the server kernel then I'm at a loss. The reference to
>> lacking support is based on claims from the same forums thread stating
>> that the kernel server has fewer hardware modules compiled in. I
>> haven't played with it myself.
>>
>> As for flash and nswrapper, I've had issues in older versions of
>> ubuntu x86_64, but install was surprisingly painless (and required
>> nothing more than "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"). Flash was
>> somewhat unstable in hardy beta, producing greyed-out squares where
>> the applet should be and requiring a FF restart, but that appears to
>> much less common since the release of 8.04.
>>
>> And no, I wouldn't give up my 8GB of RAM either.
>>
>> In summary, since you're already using the server kernel, I don't know
>> why your load would go up. I would however recommend that you do a
>> limited test with ubuntu 8.04 x86_64 release version, if you haven't
>> already. I run about 16 users on 4 thin clients plus the server, and
>> while I've had my share of issues with flash and sound in the context
>> of the x86_64 architecture and ltsp, these have been nonexistent
>> issues for me in ubuntu 8.04.
>>
>> db
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Michael Blinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply David.
>>>
>>> Yes, I assure you we're of course running the i386 -server kernel,
>> allowing
>>> all 8GB to be seen and accessed. The reason we chose 32-bit was because
>> of
>>> that all-encompassing piece of bloat called flash, and others' inability
>> to
>>> get sound working when running the amd64 variant on the server. I know
>> all
>>> about ndiswrapper and its pros and cons, and it would take a lot to
>>> convince me that my users would be happier/more stable with the current
>> FF3
>>> (beta!) running through ndiswrapper.  And, returning to 3GB RAM is not
>> an
>>> option, as this server .. well.. serves quite a few purposes.
>>>
>>> If you have references for the 'slowness and other issues' or 'hardware
>>> support issues' I'd love to see them. I've not found any quantitative
>>> analysis of i386+PAE vs. x86_64/amd64 performance. I have to assume that
>>> while there is necessarily some some slowdown in rewriting memory
>> addresses
>>> to access +3GB RAM, it's not so significant that it causes the measured
>>> load average to go up 400%.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 10:30:56 -0600, "David Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Michael Blinn
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> My company recently switched to an i386 Ubuntu 8.04 LTSP server (2
>>>>> quad-core CPUs, 8GB RAM, hardware SCSI RAID) from a K12LTSPv6 x86_64
>>>> server
>>>>> (2 dual-core CPUs, 8GB RAM, hardware SCSI RAID).
>>>>
>>>> Are you really using the i386 version? Because that's the 32-bit
>>>> version, which is known to cause slowness and other issues on systems
>>>> with lots of RAM (3+ GB). Install Ubuntu x86_64 and try again.
>>>>
>>>> If you insist on running a 32-bit server then you should consider
>>>> dropping to 3 GB of RAM or install the server kernel, which is
>>>> configured to use more RAM, although less effectively than a 64-bit
>>>> OS, and with potential hardware support issues.
>>>>
>>>> Peruse this thread on the Ubuntu forums for lots more info and helpful
>>>> links:
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=751479
>>>
>>>
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