On Mi, 2008-10-01 at 21:03 -0400, Patrick Rady wrote: > What about debian-testing...? it is turning into debian-stable this month (was supposed to happen last month, but apparently hevy enough bugs showed up in the testing release that debian delayed turning it into stable again)
the debian release process goes like that:
unstable is turned into testing at some point (note there is no date or
anything for that to happen)
testing stays in testing status until "its ready" (note there is no date
for that either, though after ubuntu showed up debian tried to at least
start to have roughly predictable dates)
if testing "is ready" it gets turned into debian-stable which means its
totally frozen and will *only* see security updates. (the eta for debain
lenny, the current debian-testing, was september, but i see they didnt
do that step yet, which means bugs heavy enough to block a switch turned
up)
once that switch from testing to stable happened, debian-unstable will
become teh new debian-testing (meaning it might break heavily directly
afterwards)
none of the above is predictable by a reliable schedule since debian
philosophy is we only flip the switch "if its ready" ... this was the
initial reason for ubuntu to be created, as canonical wanted to provide
paid support for a debian based distro, unreliable release schedules
were a blocker (between the debian woody and debian sarge release there
was a gap of five years for example).
ubuntu was then attached closely to the gnome release schedule which
simply did put up the six months meme with 18months of security support
for released stable versions.
during the existence of ubuntu requests from customers came up to have
extended support cycles for their busines as companies are often using a
release for more than 18 months, so the LTS releases were created (with
3 years of security support for desktops, 5 for servers), ubuntu
initially used to follow the debian policy of "released stable versions
only get security fixes" with LTS. since it was found that it would be
helpful to extend that to fix also little annoyances and non intrusive
bugs etc, for hardy the LTS policy was opened up a bit.
so with the hardy LTS it is actually possible to provide improvements
and bugfixes additionally to the security updates ... if you compare the
original 8.04 release to the 8.04.1 release that came out two months
later you will notice a good amount of improvements ... 8.04.2 is due in
january and the hope is to get enough community help to improve it to be
perfect, see the link Jordan Erickson posted here before about the
ubuntu SRU policy ...
ciao
oli
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