I might be talking before I should be, but why don't you guys take a look at this bug report I just filed... I think there might be some issues there that, if addressed in whatever manner necessary, will cause a lot of peoples' problems (at least on Ubuntu) to magically go away.
Again, I hope I'm not talking before I should...but I probably am. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/277331 Cheers, Jordan/Lns Oliver Grawert wrote: > On Mi, 2008-10-01 at 21:03 -0400, Patrick Rady wrote: > >> What about debian-testing...? >> > it is turning into debian-stable this month (was supposed to happen last > month, but apparently hevy enough bugs showed up in the testing release > that debian delayed turning it into stable again) > > the debian release process goes like that: > > unstable is turned into testing at some point (note there is no date or > anything for that to happen) > testing stays in testing status until "its ready" (note there is no date > for that either, though after ubuntu showed up debian tried to at least > start to have roughly predictable dates) > if testing "is ready" it gets turned into debian-stable which means its > totally frozen and will *only* see security updates. (the eta for debain > lenny, the current debian-testing, was september, but i see they didnt > do that step yet, which means bugs heavy enough to block a switch turned > up) > > once that switch from testing to stable happened, debian-unstable will > become teh new debian-testing (meaning it might break heavily directly > afterwards) > > none of the above is predictable by a reliable schedule since debian > philosophy is we only flip the switch "if its ready" ... this was the > initial reason for ubuntu to be created, as canonical wanted to provide > paid support for a debian based distro, unreliable release schedules > were a blocker (between the debian woody and debian sarge release there > was a gap of five years for example). > ubuntu was then attached closely to the gnome release schedule which > simply did put up the six months meme with 18months of security support > for released stable versions. > > during the existence of ubuntu requests from customers came up to have > extended support cycles for their busines as companies are often using a > release for more than 18 months, so the LTS releases were created (with > 3 years of security support for desktops, 5 for servers), ubuntu > initially used to follow the debian policy of "released stable versions > only get security fixes" with LTS. since it was found that it would be > helpful to extend that to fix also little annoyances and non intrusive > bugs etc, for hardy the LTS policy was opened up a bit. > so with the hardy LTS it is actually possible to provide improvements > and bugfixes additionally to the security updates ... if you compare the > original 8.04 release to the 8.04.1 release that came out two months > later you will notice a good amount of improvements ... 8.04.2 is due in > january and the hope is to get enough community help to improve it to be > perfect, see the link Jordan Erickson posted here before about the > ubuntu SRU policy ... > > ciao > oli > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _____________________________________________________________________ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
