Scott Balneaves wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 03:01:56PM -0400, Patrick Rady wrote:
>> Actually, Intrepid pre-release has seemed less-crufty than Hardy.  But I'm 
>> almost afraid to try testing it.
> 
> And here, my friends, is the ENTIRE problem.
> 
> We work very hard to come out with new versions, but the number of people who
> take the time to TEST the new versions as  they're coming out, and help us to
> FIX the bugs while things are still in development is small to non-existant.
> They simply show up when it's released, upgrade their systems, and then wonder
> why there's bugs.
> 
> We don't have a crisis of LTSP faith.
> We don't have a crisis of Ubuntu faith.
> 
> We have a crisis of users forgetting that Free Software's supposed to be a
> community, and that if you want this great free stuff, the price is for you to
> GET INVOLVED, and help the unpaid, volunteer developers to TEST the software 
> in
> your environments, and work through things WHILE THEY'RE IN DEVELOPMENT, as
> opposed to waiting for release date, then testing it then.
>  
Maybe I'm alone in this feeling, but I'm a little confused about where
exactly development is taking place.  In the days of LTSP 4.2, it was on
this list.  When LTSP 5 came out, it seemed to become a little
de-centralized.  Ubuntu was the only distro for a while that even used
LTSP 5.  Today Debian and Fedora (and probably more) are onboard, but I
don't hear much about those distros on this list.

Also, today, the best place for LTSP 5 documentation (that I know of) is
an Edubuntu handbook.  Why isn't it in /usr/share/doc on my system?

Maybe some of the problem is that I don't fully understand the line
between LTSP development and LTSP integration into a distro.  But here's
my perspective:  I use two different versions of LTSP on 4 different
distros, and I'd like one single place to make my contributions and to
find out what needs testing.

Can I test new versions/features of LTSP without also testing an Alpha
version of Ubuntu?  I'd like to use one of my stable/dependable distros
that are already installed, and install an /opt/ltsp-testing tree in
that to do all my bugfinding/bugfixing -- is that possible?

Thanks for all the hard work you guys are all doing.

-Rob
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