(Heh, coincidentally my Thunderbird randomly crashed while writing a 
reply to this)

Patrick Rady wrote:

*snip*
> With Ubuntu, there is a certain pressure to upgrade- if you want your 
> users to have the latest versions of, say, OpenOffice. You need to 
> upgrade (in my case because of weird bugs with print drivers we need 
> to use) because they are so conservative with backports, but then you 
> must endure all of the regressions. Also, Feisty and Gutsy-packaged 
> OpenOffice suffered from nasty crashers that were specific to the 
> Ubuntu packages.  So you must go through hoops to install the Sun 
> versions, which don't integrate quite as nicely.
BAM. You hit the nail on the head, I think. Ubuntu's backporting policy, 
*especially* in regards to LTS versions, is absolutely horrible. What is 
the benefit of NOT backporting bug fixes? It's hard to stay motivated to 
make things work when new LTS versions such as Hardy come out, you find 
bugs that are really critical to your environment, and the first thing 
you hear is "It'll be fixed in Intrepid." Huh?? Same thing happened with 
the last LTS version. I was forced to upgrade to a non-LTS version when 
it came out, to fix bugs in things like Evince and OpenOffice. It's the 
same cycle all over again.
> Actually, Intrepid pre-release has seemed less-crufty than Hardy.  But 
> I'm almost afraid to try testing it.
Same here, especially regarding my experience with doing this last time.

What can we do to show the Ubuntu folk that we need stronger, more 
frequent backports for bugfixes?


Cheers,
Jordan/Lns

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