>I have to ask, being an Ubuntu-only LTSP shop (right now, anyway) - are 
>there issues regarding Firefox? OpenOffice? Crashes of any kind? Do you 
>use Java web browser plugins? Flash? Light multimedia? 

For the world at large, Ubuntu Hardy may be another wonderful update in the 
long line of successful updates, but for me- an LTSP user- it's felt like a bit 
of a disaster.

PolicyKit, introduced in Hardy, prohibits you from using the administrative 
GUIs on thin clients. You can only do administrative work (with GUIs) at 
console, without fiddling with it.  I don't mind using the command line, but to 
suddenly discover this, and have to adjust, was annoying.

Firefox 3, seems to be a regression in terms of stability.  It crashes on 
graphics intensive pages, it crashes with Flash.  npviewer seems to get stuck 
at times and uses lots of CPU, on 64-bit machines. I still get rogue java-vm 
processes that persist and start gobbling all of the CPU. We've tried using the 
64-bit browser with the wrapper.  Then we've tried using the 32-bit browser on 
64-bit machines.  Neither solution is terribly robust. I haven't been bitten by 
the bug where it will only launch for four or five users then start locking 
up... yet- but reports of this are worrisome, indeed.

LTSP seemed to have more problems with my Geode based devices. Jetpipe which 
has at times been broken, seems to have disappeared completely at least from 
some versions of Hardy.  We've taken to making our own LTSP packages to get 
around this.

With Ubuntu, there is a certain pressure to upgrade- if you want your users to 
have the latest versions of, say, OpenOffice. You need to upgrade (in my case 
because of weird bugs with print drivers we need to use) because they are so 
conservative with backports, but then you must endure all of the regressions. 
Also, Feisty and Gutsy-packaged OpenOffice suffered from nasty crashers that 
were specific to the Ubuntu packages.  So you must go through hoops to install 
the Sun versions, which don't integrate quite as nicely.

I can't really point to one thing in Hardy that is an unalloyed improvement 
over Feisty for my LTSP users.

Hence, my search for another distro.

Actually, Intrepid pre-release has seemed less-crufty than Hardy.  But I'm 
almost afraid to try testing it.

--Patrick

  
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