Hello !

On Sun, 11 May 2014 20:07:35 +0200, John Hupp <[email protected]> wrote:

It's now been 3 full days, and I have not been notified about any available updates yet. A manual run of Software Updater now shows 4.3 MB available. So it does >not seem that the delay is due to phased updates, but that the bug 1046563 is still active here.

@bapoumba, you seemed to have the same problem.  Any new observations?
As I mentioned in the forums thread, some of the packages I had spotted have shown up in update-notifier. I'm keeping an eye on this and will report again if packages are not being pushed in update-notifier after the 3-4 days watch period when no bugs or issues are reported. Of course, the upgrade process will explicitly be stopped in update-notifier if bugs are reported.
I'll have a closer look later tonight (I'm UTC +1).

Regards,
b.




And of course, there is also the other issue in the discussion at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325 -- the discrepancy between updates found >by update-manager and by Synaptic or apt-get upgrade -- and I don't know of a bug report in connection with that. I have not myself seen this second issue. Apt->get upgrade current offers 4.3 MB of upgrades, just as Software Updater does.

On 5/8/2014 12:43 PM, John Hupp wrote:
OK, I'm in good position to test whether this is the old bug at work or simply phased updates working properly. I just ran Software Updater >>manually and it identified 683 KB of updates available for the Lubuntu Base. I did not install the updates, so within 2.5 days I should be notified >>that there are updates available.

On 5/8/2014 8:26 AM, bapoumba wrote:
Ah very very good point :http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.htmlthe iputils packages are showing up on that page.
Thank you much, I always forget about phase updates..


On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dale Visser <[email protected]> wrote:
You may just be encountering "phased updates" for the first time in this version: http://>>>>www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04

It takes 2.5 days for a new phased update to roll out to all users. Apt-get bypasses the delays and gets everything that >>>>can be updated.

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From: bapoumba
Sent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM
To: John Hupp
Cc: lubuntu user list
Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

Hello,

thanks for the email, I was about to post one.

First off, I'd like to apologize for silently joining the list a few weeks back. So hello, you'll mainly find me on the forums :)

I've added a few things to the forums thread, and linked the bug report here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/>>>>update-manager/main
I've also added "trusty" to the title.

Now I'm not that familiar with update-manager (software-updater) and not sure where to look at to troubleshoot and add useful >>>>information. To me, the biggest issue is the discrepancy between apt-get upgrade and software updater.

Would anyone know ?

Have a good day !


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:13 PM, John Hupp <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't find the issue in the Lubuntu or Ubuntu 14.04 Release Notes, but it seems like 14.04 is subject to https://>>>>>bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563, reported for 12.04, in which automatic updating fails.

I was noticing that I wasn't being prompted to install software updates. I ran Software Updater (update-manager) manually once >>>>>and got a big batch of updates. I ran it manually again today and it identified another batch that I could get. It included updates >>>>>for Software Updater, so perhaps that will fix the problem.

There is a big discussion of the problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325. And beyond the notification >>>>>problem, a number of people report seeing big differences between the updates identified by update-manager and Synaptic.


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