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Have MTN joined the club yet? > > " ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Tinka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:59 AM > Subject: lug_: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > > > I wonder, if CelTel woke up o ne morning and said call > charges to other > > operators (UTL, Mango, MTN) were the same as calling another > Celtel user > on > > their network, how much would it impact their business, and > the business > of > > their competitors? > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark Tinka > > Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland > > Since then we have seen this happen....we need more to happen.. > > kind regards > Marko > > I run on IP > _________________________________ A Network of People and Technology > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark > Tinka Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > My dear, that was quite a hiatus :). > > Regards, > > Mark Tinka > Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > > > Hi Mark, > > Sorry, I hadnt seen this before. I am on leave at the moment and > really just swinging through here. Will look at it and give you and > answer as soon as I get round to my account again. > > CHao > > > > > > "Mark Tinka" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ine.co.sz> cc: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: lug_: > Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > 02/26/04 11:57 AM > > Please respond to > > mtinka > > > > > > > > From an ISP's perspective, it becomes harder to work with a single > operator in UG (in terms of dial-up) for several reasons, but one I > find key is that Operator A might have a superior network that ISP > thinks is robust, but wouldn't find suitable to Clients A-F because > they use Operator B, and inter-operator fees would be a menace. > > This means you need to support both operators in your NOC, for the > sake of costs, instead of redundancy and reliability. This erodes the > sheer fabric of raw competition, as competition could be based on > your operating costs. Concentration is then focused on balancing both > scenarios, rather than selling a product/service to the final user. > > I beg to ask, what would the impact of a 0/= inter-operator fee > between the 3 carriers have on the operations of ISP's, more > specifically in the dial sector? > > How much more penetration, diversity and quality of Internet service > would be realised? > > Note: I've brought in Irene Kaggwa (whom I like to dubb IP Liaison to > the UCC :)) of the UCC into the thread, for arguments' sake. > > Regards, > > > Mark Tinka > Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Patrick Ssesanga > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > > > Of course a 0 tarrif would make a difference. Looking at the > environment 2day I must admit that branding plays a much bigger > part in attracting customers than just price. I have used all > three networks and quality-wise - I hand it to Celtel, probably > because there are fewer subscribers. > > > I think the inter-connection fees have to be regulated and infact > enforced by UCC. The problem is that the individuals there might > not be 'interested' in doing so. And of course operators such as > MTN are using that tariff to block interconnection. You could > argue that they are behaving like M$! Since all networks are > local UCC can help by insiting that users pay the same for the > interconnection as they pay on their network (problem solved). > Then let the operators fight their marketing/branding/pricing > wars. > > > I think that's the way to go. It's only UCC that can do the job > as I can't see how the operators can agree on that between > themselves especially given how some of them exploit the > situation. > > > - ses > > > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > --------------------------------------------- This service is > hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > it is like a ping pong game , subscribers move to the cheaper > provider after evaluating price and also customer base.. I dont > care about how cheap celtel is, the question would be are all > the people i want to talk to on celtel or do i have those extra > 100's to pay for calling another network. This has also been a > never ending battle , a telco wakes up one morning and removes > service fee , well and good that will work and 'MAKE' it seem > cheaper but that is not good enough for many people to just > switch over. So for something like this to work out , The > providers really have to sit down and bump there heads in a > conference room till they come to a good agreement. Everyone is > in it to win and make money , so it is just a price war and > interconnection plays a big part. Atleast thats what i think . > > > > > --- > rgds > > David Ziggy Lubowa > Customer Support Engineer > Africa Online ( U ) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patrick Ssesanga > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:27 AM > Subject: RE: lug_: Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > > > I think such a loss would be short term if the strategy works. > Think about it this way: With cheaper connection tarrifs from > Celtel to other MSPs than the reverse, Celtel attracts more > customers to exploit the low tarrif. In the long run the people > they are calling on the other networks have crossed over anyway > (and you have more intra-Celtel calls than outgoing) and all > Celtel have to do is think of a customer retention strategy. > > > That is the game of business. Woo them, hope they come and if > they do find a way of retaining them. It is dicey, but that is > one of the strategies they have to attract customers. If you > have been to the market you know what I am talking about. > > > -ses > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "David Ziggy Lubowa" > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: > Subject: lug_: Re: Inter-Operator Call Fees > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:16:18 +0300 > > > Celtel would loose alot of money and there competitors will > gain more , > unless all the telco's sit down and have a basic small > interconnection fee. > Besides that it would be too risky to even think about it > unless they all > decide at one go and have the same figures across the board. > But it would be > good, more minutes would be sold i think . > > > > --- > rgds > > David Ziggy Lubowa > Customer Support Engineer > Africa Online ( U ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Tinka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:59 AM > Subject: lug_: Inter-Operator Call Fees > > > > I wonder, if CelTel woke up o ne morning and said call > charges to other > > operators (UTL, Mango, MTN) were the same as calling another > Celtel user > on > > their network, how much would it impact their business, and > the business > of > > their competitors? > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark Tinka > > Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > This service is hosted on the Infocom network > > http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network > http://www.infocom.co.ug > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > --------------------------------------------- This service is > hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug Regards, Mark Tinka Technical Manager, Africa Online Swaziland --------------------------------------------- This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
