On Monday 21 June 2004 14:28, Lunghabo James wrote:
> Hi Badru
>
> It is interesting to see the spin you have brought to this discussion. I
> am all for local content remaining local i.e. no need to host
> linuxsolutions.co.ug in Europe :-((((.

James, the idea isn't only to keep local content local, but create local 
content in many forms, websites, multimedia, interactive portals, e.t.c., so 
that the exchange begins to justify itself.

There are dozens of websites with a .ug suffix, locally and internationally 
hosted, but how many of them get hit? We must do something 'more' to create 
demand for accessibility.

>
> Anyhow, something I want to bring to the table genuinely is the hosting
> packages available from the local ISPs. Can they be made more competitive?

ISP's don't necessarily have to be the only people that provide hosting 
services. I'm probably going against myself here (as an ISP), but generally, 
a hosting service simply requires a state-of-the-art facility and 
connectivity. Most times, ISP's that own these facilities will house them 
away from their main facility. Other times, it's not ISP's that provide these 
services, but "content providers."

As long as there's good connectivity, security, a heck of service offerings, 
redundancy and reliability, and of course, the demand to back it up, anyone 
can setup such an enterprise.

> I am not saying that you have to match the 5 dollar offers from the USA,
> but can they be made more affordable? (Get my drift?)

What's affordable, $50/month for 10GB of disk space and 100Mbps of Internet 
bandwidth :)?

> For example what would the cost be of hosting a server locally with an ISP
> which I can then use to host as many websites as I find possible? Kiggs
> any idea how much Infocom charges you?

Or rather, the hosting facility provides the hardware on a dedicated or shared 
basis, running on various platforms (SuSE, Deadrat, FreeBSD, Solaris, Evil 
Window$, e.t.c.), where customers can rent the server for an amount 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less than what it would have cost them to purchase the 
hardware in the first place. Content provider takes care of server upgrades, 
e.t.c.

And it doesn't have to end at just web access; other industries may like to 
acquire the same resources without having to pay the real price, virtual 
servers and bandwidth, so to speak.

Mark.

>
> Otherwise on the other hand, we register more .ug domains in Linux
> Solutions than .com or .br whatever. As a policy, we always encourage
> clients to give their domains a Ugandan outlook.
>
> rgds
>
> Wire
>
> > Hi Lugs
> >
> > interesting discussion on the positives and negatives of yahoo google
> > etc.
> >  I want to focus all you guys down to our home market.
> >
> > Uganda now has an IXP and we are working to join 5 IXPs namely Uganda,
> > Kenya, Mozambique Nigeria and south Africa as phase one and then move to
> > join others as they get up and running.
> >
> > Kenya created an IXP and the local market has created local content to
> > make the IXP a viable proposition.  There more domain names sold in
> > these markets than we are doing in Uganda, and more local content.
> >
> > The Local content is a collective process which needs active
> > collaborative involvement from all players.
> >
> > We built the roads, we need traffic on these roads, mere email does not
> > make it a viable proposition.  I put on both a techie and business hat
> > and I foresee the business hats in other organisations mine included
> > asking the question.
> >
> > So I would like to hand a challenge to the techies, (Lugs ) etc, how do
> > we create more local content.
> >
> >>From my point of view my door is open, we are prepared to explore any
> >
> > ideas and even co-locate your service for a period of time to proove the
> > concept.
> >
> > ISP's have been the fall guys for the high bandwidth charges.  (Granted
> > maybe some of us (the other guys :-) ) over price, but that's because we
> > /(they) are selling the expensive satellite access for people to go to
> > yahoo.
> >
> > Create local content via the IXP.  I hope you also know that anyone can
> > pier at the IXP it is not closed to ISP's only.
> >
> > let me not rant I think you get the point.
> >
> > lets create the dialogue online or offline.
> >
> > badru
> >
> >
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> > This service is hosted on the Infocom network
> > http://www.infocom.co.ug
>
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> This service is hosted on the Infocom network
> http://www.infocom.co.ug


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