All approaches lead to the same result. One can send juice (airtime) to
any one whether on the MTN approach or the Mango approach. My point was on
the semantics of which category of the social strata wither option is
bound to attract.

Wire
> Distribution is very important in this Market, James what if your granny
> in the Village(rural) needed 2,000/= worth of airtime?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wire James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
>
> Gitta
>
> You are dead wrong. What Mango has done is that when u walk into a shop,
> you have the choice of paying Ushs 2000 and the attendant only scratches
> for you one Air time code worth 2000/=. Ideally speaking, one card of
> Ushs 10000 can support upto five different people. Do you get it now?
>
> Wire
>
>> There are no Mango Share Cards for 2,000/=, one has to spend 10,000/=
>> before doing any sharing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wire James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:39 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
>>
>> Hey Gitta
>>
>> This is a half empty/half full glass kind of argument. All points of
>> view have their positives. My take is that for the upscale market, the
>> MTN service of forwarding airtime via an SMS is more convenient when
>> you want to share with others. As for the Mango Share service, it is
>> very convenient for those of us who occassionally have the small
>> denominations and yet would still want to buy some air time. I mean
>> take it from me, the number of people likely to buy a Ushs 2000
>> airtime Pin Code is far higher than those that will buy one of Ushs
>> 5000. So probably mango's strategy is to reach out to the low end of
>> the market spectrum and allow them to spend in quantities that they
>> are more comfortable with. The most ironic thing is that some of these
>> guys might end up spending Ushs 10000 on airtime but in bits of Ushs
>> 2000 yet if you told them to buy a card of Ushs 10000 at ago, they
>> will riot :-).
>>
>> These are all market dynamics in my view that are arrived at hopefully
>> with some good research background. Unfortunately some of them
>> sometimes backfire right from the word go but again I will not
>> hesitate to say that the mango Share is quite interesting.
>>
>> Wire
>>> Not wanting to always turn the lug into some Marketing place or
>>> Company bashing list, honestly is it more convenient scratching 5
>>> times and STILL sending the recipient an message or giving them a
>>> call or just sending the message.
>>>
>>> Also Ziggy, if I intend to give you 2000/= am now past the point of
>>> your 2 minutes argument, what the point of discussion is, is the
>>> method of getting it to you.
>>>
>>> Is it more convenient to buy another card, scratch it 5 times and
>>> then send you the message?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:45 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it is pretty much the same concept , just different ways of
>>> getting  the job done. It seems it's now about who can offer the best
>>> value added  service if you would like to call it that. The mango
>>> product is like the one  in Tanzania and i think it is working fine.
>>> As for MTN besides the fact that  you can share airtime, how many
>>> people would share airtime that is already  loaded, infact think of
>>> it this way most pre-paid subscribers  who are  willing to help you
>>> use their phones
>>>  when you want to make a call, what they
>>>
>>> would say is " Please use 1minute or 2 minutes ) am sure all of you
>>> who have  ever borrowed phones to make a call always use about that
>>> much, so i find it  hard to believe that someone can actually send
>>> you 2,000/= of there already  loaded airtime without much of a
>>> complaint. I think airtime that is not  loaded yet like Mango's
>>> airtime strip is more of a better innovation.
>>>
>>> I stand to be corrected on this :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  - Ziggy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:29:08 +0300, gittas wrote
>>>> How does Me2U compare with Mango Share card in terms of convenience?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Wire James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:33 PM
>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Subject: Re: lug_: The giant is moving
>>>>
>>>> These guys truly amaze me. Last weekend I flipped when I tried out
>>>> the Mango Share card. It is a cool innovation indeed. Buying airtime
>>>> in smaller denominations is one easy way of reaching out to the low
>>>> income earners.
>>>>
>>>> Viva UTL
>>>>
>>>> Wire
>>>>
>>>> > *   UGANDA'S UTL LAUNCHES SOLAR LANDLINE
>>>> >
>>>> > Uganda Telecom has introduced solar-powered accessory for the
>>>> newly
>>>> introduced TelesaverPlus landline. This will especially be useful
>>>> for rural
>>>> > populations, which have no access to regular electricity power.
>>>> >
>>>> > "This is in line with our goal to provide total communication
>>>> solutions to everyone including those in the rural areas at rates
>>>> suitable to them. Everybody has a right to communicate," Mr Hans
>>>> Paulsen, UTL's Marketing Manager, said on Monday.
>>>> >
>>>> > He was speaking at the launch of the two products (TelesaverPlus
>>>> and
>>>> solar charger) in Mbarara town. The solar panel, which comes with a
>>>> battery,  costs
>>>> > Shs160,000 exclusive of the landline, which costs Shs240,000. More
>>>> than 8,000 people have subscribed to TelesaverPlus since its launch
>>>> a month ago.
>>>> >
>>>> > Faisal Ijaz Khan, UTL's Chief Commercial Officer, said UTL is in
>>>> the
>>>> process
>>>> > of upgrading its network to accommodate the increasing
>>>> subscription.
>>>> He said
>>>> > within six weeks Masaka, Ntungamo, Kabale, Bushenyi, Kasese,
>>>> Soroti
>>>> and Tororo will be connected on the TelesaverPlus.
>>>> > (SOURCE: The Monitor)
>>>> >
>>>> > warmest regards
>>>> > �
>>>> > Shem Nnaggenda  K. Nsubuga
>>>> > Country IT Manager, Standard Chartered Bank Uganda
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>>>> UNITED
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>> though. As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal
>> ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out
>> how to collect sometime in the next decade." Bill Gates as Quoted by
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> people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though.
> As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours.
> They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to
> collect sometime in the next decade." Bill Gates as Quoted by C|Net
> News.com
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"Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but
people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though.
As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll
get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect
sometime in the next decade." Bill Gates as Quoted by C|Net News.com





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