On Monday 26 July 2004 15:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But anyway, at least all lug members I think have had a good discussion, I > personally didn't know I could walk to a Mango shop and buy airtime of > 2,000/=
Was this part of MTN's R&D budget, or did you really need it :). Just kidding. Mark. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:34:38 +0300, gittas wrote > > > With good IT implementations they would not be sending 25 copies > > every time they send an e-mail > > *** > > :) , well dont measure IT implementation by a small flaw in webmail > > software . FYI your statement is not within the scope of conversation. If > you > > really did want to go into implementation[s] we would go on and on and > eventually go offtopic which we have. > > - Z > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:29 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:21:50 +0300, gittas wrote > > > > > B) Should have read, Telco firms is where you have some of the best > > > technology implementations in this country. > > > > ** WRONG, Telco have sophisticated hardware thats all . > > Technology implementations are spread out in many different small > > companies i > > > > for one know that Trueafrican has a very good variety of technology > > implementations that most telco's around Africa dont have. > > > > - Ziggy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Henry Kirya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:06 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > > > choose 1 correct ans. > > > > > > Ques) why do telco related posts attract such a huge interest in the > > > lug list > > > > > > Ans) > > > > > > A) linux is inherently a communication OS so most pple who use it at > > > work are employed by either asn isp , telecomm or networking firm B) > > > telco firms is where the big bucks are, read UTL, MTN etc , so they > > > pique our interest in much the same way that overpaid fooball stars > > > do C) just just > > > > > > good luck ! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:52 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > > > I don't know whether SMS is still not widely used in this country, I > > > get messages from people who haven't attended formal education in > > > the rural areas > > > (I believe almost 90% of those who own mobile phones can use sms), > > > but also you stated that; > > > > > > "Some people might not mind at all scratching those many times and > > > sending a simple sms" > > > > > > In the end they are sending an SMS, huh > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:44 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > > > When rolling out a product you first have to look at a couple of > > > things, Acceptance and Convinience. I stand to be corrected on this > > > as well, my view is that the whole sms thing is something you going > > > to school the masses for a > > > > > > longtime. As simple as we think SMS ( to some of us who have used it > > > for a while and also know the who schematics of it) it might not be > > > to many, which means you might have many calls to your call centres > > > for help. Look at SMSINFO and all the other SMS products do you > > > know how long it actually took > > > > > > to sink in , even with all the advertising many people still didnt > > > understand the product, either it was syntax errors or didnt know which > > > number or they need a whole lot of schooling to get it right. These > > > are some of the disadvantages of SMS i believe. Some people might > > > not mind at all scratching those many times and sending a simple sms > > > , it actually makes them > > > > > > feel that they have more control of there airtime. Look at companies > > > who still use notebooks rather than Databases which have a point and > > > click interface, what would you say is more convinient there ??? and > > > how long do you think it will take them to accept change ?? > > > > > > i am basically looking at acceptance which i believe plays a big > > > role in product roll out. > > > > > > -Ziggy > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:07:40 +0300, gittas wrote > > > > > > > Not wanting to always turn the lug into some Marketing place or > > > > Company bashing list, honestly is it more convenient scratching 5 > > > > times and > > STILL > > > > > sending the recipient an message or giving them a call or just > > > > sending the message. > > > > > > > > Also Ziggy, if I intend to give you 2000/= am now past the point of > > > > your 2 minutes argument, what the point of discussion is, is the > > > > method of getting it to you. > > > > > > > > Is it more convenient to buy another card, scratch it 5 times and > > > > then send you the message? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:45 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > > > > > I think it is pretty much the same concept , just different ways of > > > > getting the job done. It seems it's now about who can offer the best > > > > value added service if you would like to call it that. The mango > > > > product is like the one in Tanzania and i think it is working fine. > > > > As for MTN besides the fact that you can share airtime, how many > > > > people would share airtime that is already loaded, infact think of > > > > it this way most pre-paid subscribers who are willing to help you > > > > use their phones when you want to make a call, what they > > > > > > > > would say is " Please use 1minute or 2 minutes ) am sure all of you > > > > who have ever borrowed phones to make a call always use about that > > > > much, so i find it hard to believe that someone can actually send > > > > you 2,000/= of there already loaded airtime without much of a > > > > complaint. I think airtime that is not loaded yet like Mango's > > > > airtime strip is more of a better innovation. > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected on this :) > > > > > > > > - Ziggy > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:29:08 +0300, gittas wrote > > > > > > > > > How does Me2U compare with Mango Share card in terms of > > > > > convenience? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Wire James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:33 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: lug_: The giant is moving > > > > > > > > > > These guys truly amaze me. Last weekend I flipped when I tried out > > > > > the Mango Share card. It is a cool innovation indeed. Buying > > > > > airtime in smaller denominations is one easy way of reaching out to > > > > > the low > > > > > > income > > > > > > > > earners. > > > > > > > > > > Viva UTL > > > > > > > > > > Wire > > > > > > > > > > > * UGANDA'S UTL LAUNCHES SOLAR LANDLINE > > > > > > > > > > > > Uganda Telecom has introduced solar-powered accessory for the > > > > > > newly introduced TelesaverPlus landline. This will especially be > > > > > > useful > > for > > > > > > > rural > > > > > > populations, which have no access to regular electricity power. > > > > > > > > > > > > "This is in line with our goal to provide total communication > > > > > > solutions > > > > > > > > > to everyone including those in the rural areas at rates suitable > > > > > > to them. Everybody has a right to communicate," Mr Hans Paulsen, > > > > > > UTL's Marketing Manager, said on Monday. > > > > > > > > > > > > He was speaking at the launch of the two products (TelesaverPlus > > and > > > > > > > solar charger) in Mbarara town. The solar panel, which comes with > > > > > > a battery, costs > > > > > > Shs160,000 exclusive of the landline, which costs Shs240,000. > > > > > > More > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > 8,000 people have subscribed to TelesaverPlus since its launch a > > > > month > > > > > > > > ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > Faisal Ijaz Khan, UTL's Chief Commercial Officer, said UTL is in > > the > > > > > > > process > > > > > > of upgrading its network to accommodate the increasing > > subscription. > > > > He > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > within six weeks Masaka, Ntungamo, Kabale, Bushenyi, Kasese, > > > > > > Soroti > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Tororo will be connected on the TelesaverPlus. > > > > > > (SOURCE: The Monitor) > > > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > > � > > > > > > Shem Nnaggenda K. Nsubuga > > > > > > Country IT Manager, Standard Chartered Bank Uganda > > > > > > Standard Chartered Bank, 1, Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB, > > > > > > UNITED > > > > > > > > > KINGDOM > > > > > > Tel: +44 (0)20 7457 7248 +44 (0)20 72807248x: +44 (0)20 7457 > > > > > > 7248� > > or > > > > > > > +44 (0)20 7280 7500 > > > > > > Mobile: +44 (0) 790 4795061; AEN: + 1044 7248 FONENET+1401 7248 > > Fax: > > > > > > +44 207 280 7208 > > > > > > "Leading the Way in Asia ,� Africa and the Middle East" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, > > > > > but people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they > > > > > will, > > > > though. > > > > > > > As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. > > > > > > They'll > > > > > > > > get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to > > > > > collect sometime in the next decade." 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