On Thursday 18 September 2008 13:54:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> Though if you looked at the white papers, you will notice
> that there are some areas where extreme seems a few steps
> ahead.
>
> - Back plane capacity

Well, this depends on your applications and budget.

It's quite easy to get a 1U or 2U switch today that will 
support from as little as 32Gbps to as high as 320Gbps, 
over 48 ports.

Depending on the requirements (i.e., number of ports 
needed), the switch could be oversubscribed or not.

Oversubscription assumes all ports will be occupied and that 
all customers will be running at line rate, i.e., 1Gbps. 
This is quite rare for circumstances where 1U switches are 
used.

Where you need this kind of throughput without dropping 
frames, you'd be looking at slightly bigger switches that 
have an independent switch fabric that is 
field-upgradeable - meaning you can start low and upgrade 
up to the switch's maximum capacity.

> - Number of Vlans supported.

What has your experience been?

> - Size of Jumbo frames supported etc.

The big names today all support jumbo frames (Cisco, 
Foundry, Force10, Extreme, Juniper, e.t.c.). The problem I 
have with Cisco is that they don't support jumbo frames in 
switches that only provide 10/100Mbps ports - it only 
applies to their 10/100/1000Mbps port switches.

The same goes for their routers, but with the exception of 
the larger routers, i.e., 7600, XR 12000, CRS-1.

> Not all these have been practical to us yet though we are
> heading there.

My advice would be (on the 3 issues you mention, above):

* 1U switches are good enough for most applications with
  regard to switching capacity - if you need more growth,
  consider kit that has a field-upgradeable swith fabric,
  e.g., Cisco 6500 series, Juniper MX series, Foundry MLX
  series, e.t.c.

* Depending on your design, you'll probably run out of ports
  before you do VLAN ID's, unless you do a lot of trunking.
  VLAN ID exhaustion is a problem you can fix with Q-in-Q,
  or my personal favorite, EoMPLS. 802.1Q doesn't scale for
  Metro-E environments, which is where VLAN ID runout is a
  big problem.

* Be sure to find kit that will support jumbo frames, i.e.,
  9,216 bytes. If your customers can push it, jumbo frames
  help use more bandwidth for less CPU (more data carried in
  each frame). You also have the freedom of adding services
  and eating more into the Ethernet frame without worrying
  about it. This is quite helpful if you look at MPLS'
  advanced features. We do this also for our SDH-based WAN
  links (4,470 to 9,000 bytes).

Cheers,

Mark.

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