Noted this is called the THE NATIONAL INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AUTHORITY, UGANDA BILL, 2008, its main thrust seems to be administrative in nature, I wonder, is there going to be another IT/ Electronic bill that is more technically specific to address electronic crime, the kind where no guns or physical presence is needed but rogue technical prowess, with the number of IT/Computer Science Graduates coming off the production lines the temptation for the jobless to go rogue is high seeing as more people albeit slowly embrace the near cashless system of living, or is the current state of electronically committed crimes being prosecuted basing on generalised laws like "obtaining money by false pretence" going to continue, i might be mistaken but elctronic documentation isnt accepted as evidence in Ugandan courts of law, any potential to address this?
Disclaimer: Am defnitely one of the good guys and i intend to stick there[?] On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Yes but we must never forget that great leveler of all called Time! One > day, using existing laws, the Danish government could sue all involved, > including the lowly security agents, leaving useful lessons for future > generations, as they see grey-haired men carted off to prison for crimes > committed in their youth. Even today we can't know what restraints such > fears put on those that would otherwise be tempted to act with impunity. > Society benefits from such restraint. > > I am still waiting to hear a decent argument for doing nothing in this > case. Why tempt well-intentioned civil servants with such power? > > P. > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 09:55, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > > >> you mean like when they kindly requested the Danish ambassadors wife if >> they >> could enter the Danish residency to get the guy back that climbed over the >> wall from the adjectant safe-house? >> >> sure, nothing to worry about. >> >> rgds, >> >> Reinier Battenberg >> Director >> Mountbatten Ltd. >> +256 782 801 749 >> www.mountbatten.net >> >> Be a professional website builder: www.easysites.ug >> >> >> On Thursday 30 October 2008 09:36:51 Kiggundu Mukasa wrote: >> >>> If they want something they come to your office and they kindly ask >>> for it. >>> You then can say NO or YES. >>> >>> If you refuse and there is a legitimate reason why Government needs it >>> (e.g. you are a person of concern) then they ALSO need to go to the >>> courts and get the rights to compel you to give it to government. >>> >>> But just walking into homes and offices and taking what they want is >>> not how civilized societies operate. >>> You are I believe thinking about "Atilla The Hun" rule. >>> >>> Kiggs >>> >>> On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:49 AM, Samuel Gitta wrote: >>> >>>> Kiggs, >>>> >>>> So what should the govt do incase it needs to obtain information? The >>>> law can always be exploited but that's why I am told we have courts >>>> through which justice can be sought... >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sam, >>>>> If you have nothing to hide >>>>> Why do you have curtains on your windows? >>>>> >>>>> You should be able to say you are doing nothing illegal so people >>>>> can come >>>>> to your place at any time of the day or night and look in? >>>>> >>>>> Its a privacy issue. I have material that only I need to see (and >>>>> no its >>>>> not porn). >>>>> >>>>> Kiggs >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Samuel Gitta wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think govts everywhere need mechanisms to obtain information, and >>>>>> unless one has something to 'hide', I believe the drafters had >>>>>> honest >>>>>> intentions... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:03 AM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.parliament.go.ug/billtrack/bills/text/2008-008.pdf >>>>>>> You may want to get some views in on the matter. Edward >>>>>>> Baliddawa, who >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> known to many of us, is understood to be the chairman of the >>>>>>> committee >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> will discuss this Bill. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> You will no doubt note Section 21, which taken together with Sec. >>>>>>> 19 and >>>>>>> Schedule 2 offers more than a little opportunity for legalised >>>>>>> abuse. >>>>>>> Yes, >>>>>>> no African government needs a law like this to abuse the rights of >>>>>>> citizens, >>>>>>> but I'm sure there are lessons in history that would counsel >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> letting >>>>>>> this pass as it is... >>>>>>> P. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> LUG mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>> (including >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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