i think that is the computer misuse bill http://sipilawuganda.com/downloads/computer%20misuse%20bill.pdf
(there are about 3 similar bills that did pass cabinet) more on http://sipilawuganda.com/ rgds, Reinier Battenberg Director Mountbatten Ltd. +256 782 801 749 www.mountbatten.net Be a professional website builder: www.easysites.ug On Thursday 30 October 2008 10:42:40 Daniel Bwente wrote: > Noted this is called the THE NATIONAL INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AUTHORITY, > UGANDA BILL, 2008, its main thrust seems to be administrative in nature, I > wonder, is there going to be another IT/ Electronic bill that is more > technically specific to address electronic crime, the kind where no guns or > physical presence is needed but rogue technical prowess, with the number of > IT/Computer Science Graduates coming off the production lines the > temptation for the jobless to go rogue is high seeing as more people albeit > slowly embrace the near cashless system of living, or is the current state > of electronically committed crimes being prosecuted basing on generalised > laws like "obtaining money by false pretence" going to continue, i might > be mistaken but elctronic documentation isnt accepted as evidence in > Ugandan courts of law, any potential to address this? > > Disclaimer: > Am defnitely one of the good guys and i intend to stick there[?] > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Yes but we must never forget that great leveler of all called Time! One > > day, using existing laws, the Danish government could sue all involved, > > including the lowly security agents, leaving useful lessons for future > > generations, as they see grey-haired men carted off to prison for crimes > > committed in their youth. Even today we can't know what restraints such > > fears put on those that would otherwise be tempted to act with impunity. > > Society benefits from such restraint. > > > > I am still waiting to hear a decent argument for doing nothing in this > > case. Why tempt well-intentioned civil servants with such power? > > > > P. > > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 09:55, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > >> you mean like when they kindly requested the Danish ambassadors wife if > >> they > >> could enter the Danish residency to get the guy back that climbed over > >> the wall from the adjectant safe-house? > >> > >> sure, nothing to worry about. > >> > >> rgds, > >> > >> Reinier Battenberg > >> Director > >> Mountbatten Ltd. > >> +256 782 801 749 > >> www.mountbatten.net > >> > >> Be a professional website builder: www.easysites.ug > >> > >> On Thursday 30 October 2008 09:36:51 Kiggundu Mukasa wrote: > >>> If they want something they come to your office and they kindly ask > >>> for it. > >>> You then can say NO or YES. > >>> > >>> If you refuse and there is a legitimate reason why Government needs it > >>> (e.g. you are a person of concern) then they ALSO need to go to the > >>> courts and get the rights to compel you to give it to government. > >>> > >>> But just walking into homes and offices and taking what they want is > >>> not how civilized societies operate. > >>> You are I believe thinking about "Atilla The Hun" rule. > >>> > >>> Kiggs > >>> > >>> On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:49 AM, Samuel Gitta wrote: > >>>> Kiggs, > >>>> > >>>> So what should the govt do incase it needs to obtain information? The > >>>> law can always be exploited but that's why I am told we have courts > >>>> through which justice can be sought... > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>>> Hash: SHA1 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sam, > >>>>> If you have nothing to hide > >>>>> Why do you have curtains on your windows? > >>>>> > >>>>> You should be able to say you are doing nothing illegal so people > >>>>> can come > >>>>> to your place at any time of the day or night and look in? > >>>>> > >>>>> Its a privacy issue. I have material that only I need to see (and > >>>>> no its > >>>>> not porn). > >>>>> > >>>>> Kiggs > >>>>> > >>>>> On Oct 29, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Samuel Gitta wrote: > >>>>>> I think govts everywhere need mechanisms to obtain information, and > >>>>>> unless one has something to 'hide', I believe the drafters had > >>>>>> honest > >>>>>> intentions... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:03 AM, P. A. Bagyenda > >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> http://www.parliament.go.ug/billtrack/bills/text/2008-008.pdf > >>>>>>> You may want to get some views in on the matter. Edward > >>>>>>> Baliddawa, who > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> known to many of us, is understood to be the chairman of the > >>>>>>> committee > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>> will discuss this Bill. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> You will no doubt note Section 21, which taken together with Sec. > >>>>>>> 19 and > >>>>>>> Schedule 2 offers more than a little opportunity for legalised > >>>>>>> abuse. > >>>>>>> Yes, > >>>>>>> no African government needs a law like this to abuse the rights of > >>>>>>> citizens, > >>>>>>> but I'm sure there are lessons in history that would counsel > >>>>>>> against > >>>>>>> letting > >>>>>>> this pass as it is... > >>>>>>> P. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> LUG mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>>>>> %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >>>>>>> (including > >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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