On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:46 +0000, Simon Vass wrote: > "But that's a longer story."
These are some of the reasons why we need to integrate non-technical discussions in the monthly LUG meetings. It will help people understand and appreciate the reality and avoid living on the cloud 9 of FOSS. Wire > > But one that sounds very interesting Paul, I would love to hear more. I too > often wonder how Open Source companies survive, but they do. I think what > definitely makes a difference is the 'community' around the product, is that > some way we can support you in this? Advocating Open-Source especially > home-grown is definitely one goal I want to push. > > http://www.linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/102 > > see end of paragraph ;-) > > > > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Bagyenda" <[email protected]> > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 09:39:48 GMT +03:00 Iraq > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM > > > In my experience, you have to be very careful about giving stuff away for > free. Having participated in and run open source projects for a while now, I > can tell you that the promise and the reality often live miles apart from > each other. And not for the lack of trying. But that's a longer story. > > > P. > > > > On Jul 20, 2009, at 09:07, Muwonge Ronald wrote: > > > Don't you you think you would be "wealthier" if you made it open and free > something like Openbutterfly then you port changes from the community to the > $-version?Like the big boys do just my 2 cents.We can give a hand > Ronny > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Paul Bagyenda < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > No, it isn't. It is free but not open source. > > To answer Ronald's questions: The other features you suggest are certainly > something to think about, and I will queue them to the relevant developers > internally. > > On the Ads, it all depends on the size of the Ad: We try to keep them small. > However keep in mind that only one copy of the Ad is downloaded per Cafe (by > the server). Also, no downloads are done of course unless a new Ad is > available. And the Ad server is not local at this stage (long story). > > P. > > > > > On Jul 20, 2009, at 08:29, Simon Vass wrote: > > > > Paul, > > is Butterfly under a Open-Source license? > > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Muwonge Ronald" < [email protected] > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" < [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 18:52:26 GMT +03:00 Iraq > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM > > > I love Butterfly but could you design a more simpler front end for the novice > linux user so that they can backup the database,inculde MAC and AAA > functionality.I saw some user trying to update the keys on command line and I > think that was tough for her otherwise bigups :-) > And Paul thanks for patching in the new ver before advanced users could beat > the timer b4 reboot seen it evolve for 6 years somewhere. > Quick one if you don mind how much bandwidth do the ads take? > Is the ad serving server local? > > Could you send it to sourceforge please as a UG project :-) > > Ronny > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM, ARINDA JB < [email protected] > wrote: > > > Wire, > I think its not being shy but Sometimes I am misled to think that marketing > and software development are two conflicting professions. Developers usually > appear principled and perfectionist ever investing time in finding out > weaknesses in their own application so as to have them fixed in the next > version release rather than going around praising their own work to who ever > cares to listen. i think that's the only thing Microsoft is better at than > the Linux community. The later looks full of Good programmers while the > former is full of marketeers. some times i wonder the hype and credit > Microsoft's Vista OS was given when it was released and there after (not > forgetting it hugely expensive License) when am waiting for it to load > (around 4 minutes ) every time i start my machine (1GB RAM) at my workplace > and as disable the less needed services after.its a pain When i compare with > the free Linux on my PC at home (which has far less resources) but takes > seconds to load. Sometimes i think it takes some level of 'Madness' to look a > good marketeer for a software in this current global economics. > > Regards > Arinda JB > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Wire James < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > Bagyenda > > I am very grateful that for once you have stood up and claimed your rightful > position. As one who has watched Butterfly evolve over the years from when it > was first released, I should say I am very impressed by the work done. To me, > it is one product that I will always endorse whenever I get a chance. > > Unfortunately I keep telling people that the developers of Butterfly and > Mbuni are too shy to say that their products are the best. Did you go for a > marketing course lately? > > Wire > > > > > > On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 12:20 +0300, Paul Bagyenda wrote: > > Indeed :) Butterfly for Windows (with Linux or Windows backend) has been FREE > for a while now. We have recently been live testing an all-linux > implementation. In the past you could use Linux for the clients and use > Butterfly's Hotspot control feature to control the clients/ workstations > surfing abilities. (If you've been to any Infocom Hotspots such as Humura, > Cafe Pap, etc. then you've seen this in action.) The snag with this version > is it required a Windows machine for the administration component. Not any > more. The all-linux implementation has a GTK-based app that provides the > administration component, and a full client-side controller for the desktops. > We don't have any installations in Kla running this but we do have some in a > neighbouring country. Since we consider it in test still, product plugging > has been somewhat muted. Now, because Simon has tempted me into the territory > of product- plugging, I should say that Butterfly is older and perhaps more > mature than most other Cybercafe systems *in the world*. Some of the core > functionality dates back to 1997. Since it has been continually developed > since then, I feel almost brave enough to state that I don't believe many > such systems will serve you as well as it will. Enough! P. On Jul 15, 2009, > at 10:56, Simon Vass wrote: > Paul, > > If you have it why not share? This is > supposed to be about Linux > advocacy? This isn't I-network so you can plug a > paid for package? ;-) > > > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda > Ltd > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > Email: > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul > Bagyenda" < [email protected] > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" < > [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 09:35:50 GMT +03:00 Iraq > > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM > > > > We have it. I'll have somebody contact you off list. > > > Paul. > > > > On > Jul 15, 2009, at 08:40, Ahmed Senyonjo wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > > Asking again, I need a program that can manage an Internet Cafe, to > say it > in another way, i need the equivalent of Buterfly, Nettimer > etc.... both > client and administrator versions that can run on a > linux platform. > > > Please advise. > > Thanks > > Med. > > > View your Twitter and Flickr updates > from one place – Learn more! > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously > hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data > are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). 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