Simon Count me in this time. I will come with my herd of kids from school. I hope you do have enough juice for them to partake of.
Wire On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 08:09 +0000, Simon Vass wrote: > "But that's a longer story." These are some of the reasons why we need to > integrate non-technical discussions in the monthly LUG meetings. > > Well that requires you to actually attend the meetings first eh Wire? nudge > nudge hint hint. ;-) > > How about I promise to buy you the first coke, (not sure you drink beer). > > But I agree 100%, I think we could have some amazing discussions IRL. This > truly is the power of community. > > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wire James" <[email protected]> > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 10:59:39 GMT +03:00 Iraq > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM > > > On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 07:46 +0000, Simon Vass wrote: > > "But that's a longer story." These are some of the reasons why we need to > integrate non-technical discussions in the monthly LUG meetings. It will help > people understand and appreciate the reality and avoid living on the cloud 9 > of FOSS. > > Wire > > But one that sounds very interesting Paul, I would love to hear more. I too > often wonder how Open Source companies survive, but they do. I think what > definitely makes a difference is the 'community' around the product, is that > some way we can support you in this? Advocating Open-Source especially > home-grown is definitely one goal I want to push. > http://www.linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/102 see end of paragraph ;-) Simon Vass > Technical Manager E-Tech Uganda Ltd http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) > 312260620 or (0) 312260621 email: [email protected] skype: > e-techservicedesk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bagyenda" < > [email protected] > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" < [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 09:39:48 GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [LUG] > RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM In my experience, you have > to be very careful about giving stuff away for free. Having participated in > and run open source projects for a while now, I can tell you that the promise > and the reality often live miles apart from each other. And not for the lack > of trying. But that's a longer story. P. On Jul 20, 2009, at 09:07, Muwonge > Ronald wrote: Don't you you think you would be "wealthier" if you made it > open and free something like Openbutterfly then you port changes from the > community to the $-version?Like the big boys do just my 2 cents.We can give a > hand Ronny On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Paul Bagyenda < > [email protected] > wrote: No, it isn't. It is free but not open source. > To answer Ronald's questions: The other features you suggest are certainly > something to think about, and I will queue them to the relevant developers > internally. On the Ads, it all depends on the size of the Ad: We try to keep > them small. However keep in mind that only one copy of the Ad is downloaded > per Cafe (by the server). Also, no downloads are done of course unless a new > Ad is available. And the Ad server is not local at this stage (long story). > P. On Jul 20, 2009, at 08:29, Simon Vass wrote: Paul, is Butterfly under a > Open-Source license? Simon Vass Technical Manager E-Tech Uganda Ltd > http://www.etech.ug Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 email: > [email protected] skype: e-techservicedesk ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Muwonge Ronald" < [email protected] > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" < > [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 18:52:26 GMT +03:00 Iraq > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM I love > Butterfly but could you design a more simpler front end for the novice linux > user so that they can backup the database,inculde MAC and AAA functionality.I > saw some user trying to update the keys on command line and I think that was > tough for her otherwise bigups :-) And Paul thanks for patching in the new > ver before advanced users could beat the timer b4 reboot seen it evolve for 6 > years somewhere. Quick one if you don mind how much bandwidth do the ads > take? Is the ad serving server local? Could you send it to sourceforge please > as a UG project :-) Ronny On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM, ARINDA JB < > [email protected] > wrote: Wire, I think its not being shy but Sometimes I > am misled to think that marketing and software development are two > conflicting professions. Developers usually appear principled and > perfectionist ever investing time in finding out weaknesses in their own > application so as to have them fixed in the next version release rather than > going around praising their own work to who ever cares to listen. i think > that's the only thing Microsoft is better at than the Linux community. The > later looks full of Good programmers while the former is full of marketeers. > some times i wonder the hype and credit Microsoft's Vista OS was given when > it was released and there after (not forgetting it hugely expensive License) > when am waiting for it to load (around 4 minutes ) every time i start my > machine (1GB RAM) at my workplace and as disable the less needed services > after.its a pain When i compare with the free Linux on my PC at home (which > has far less resources) but takes seconds to load. Sometimes i think it takes > some level of 'Madness' to look a good marketeer for a software in this > current global economics. Regards Arinda JB On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:14 AM, > Wire James < [email protected] > wrote: Bagyenda I am very grateful > that for once you have stood up and claimed your rightful position. As one > who has watched Butterfly evolve over the years from when it was first > released, I should say I am very impressed by the work done. To me, it is one > product that I will always endorse whenever I get a chance. Unfortunately I > keep telling people that the developers of Butterfly and Mbuni are too shy to > say that their products are the best. Did you go for a marketing course > lately? Wire On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 12:20 +0300, Paul Bagyenda wrote: Indeed > :) Butterfly for Windows (with Linux or Windows backend) has been FREE for a > while now. We have recently been live testing an all-linux implementation. In > the past you could use Linux for the clients and use Butterfly's Hotspot > control feature to control the clients/ workstations surfing abilities. (If > you've been to any Infocom Hotspots such as Humura, Cafe Pap, etc. then > you've seen this in action.) The snag with this version is it required a > Windows machine for the administration component. Not any more. The all-linux > implementation has a GTK-based app that provides the administration > component, and a full client-side controller for the desktops. We don't have > any installations in Kla running this but we do have some in a neighbouring > country. Since we consider it in test still, product plugging has been > somewhat muted. Now, because Simon has tempted me into the territory of > product- plugging, I should say that Butterfly is older and perhaps more > mature than most other Cybercafe systems *in the world*. Some of the core > functionality dates back to 1997. Since it has been continually developed > since then, I feel almost brave enough to state that I don't believe many > such systems will serve you as well as it will. Enough! P. On Jul 15, 2009, > at 10:56, Simon Vass wrote: > Paul, > > If you have it why not share? This is > supposed to be about Linux > advocacy? This isn't I-network so you can plug a > paid for package? ;-) > > > > Simon Vass > Technical Manager > E-Tech Uganda > Ltd > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > Email: > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul > Bagyenda" < [email protected] > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" < > [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 09:35:50 GMT +03:00 Iraq > > Subject: Re: [LUG] RE:THE EQUIVALENT OF BUTTERFLY ON A LINUX PLATFORM > > > > We have it. I'll have somebody contact you off list. > > > Paul. > > > > On > Jul 15, 2009, at 08:40, Ahmed Senyonjo wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends > > > Asking again, I need a program that can manage an Internet Cafe, to > say it > in another way, i need the equivalent of Buterfly, Nettimer > etc.... both > client and administrator versions that can run on a > linux platform. > > > Please advise. > > Thanks > > Med. > > > View your Twitter and Flickr updates > from one place – Learn more! > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously > hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data > are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). 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