Well they did not only attack google, other companies like Juniper, Adobe Systems, Rackspace e.t.c. Should we assume the rest where attacked for the same reasons? The general mindset/end game in china is to extract as much technology out of American companies as they can, transfer that to their own companies and, when they feel those companies have reached a level of technical maturity, show the American companies the door.
Thing is google is not easily bullied so i guess they will also take the gloves off whatever follows , well we will probably get to see in the next couple of days :) . > Yes that is quite possible. The chinese are still a mystery to most. And > most of what they do works or they wouldnt be considered an up an coming > super power. I guess as more details come out we will get the full scope > of > what they are doing > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: > >> over on the Kictanet list, one guy has suggested that China attacked >> Google, et. al on purpose, so that Google would react the way they have >> and >> leave the market clear for Chinese search companies. >> >> An interesting perspective at least. >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route >> indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Douglas Onyango >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Like you mention and has has been vindicated by the rise in stock, >>> leaving China itself can be be a plus for Google. The confidence that >>> now >>> many other people have that google will not succumb to pressure can and >>> will give them more business from the rest of the world as well >>> Chinese >>> outside the country and those who can traverse firewalls from the >>> inside >>> :-). >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Douglas Onyango +256(0712)981329 >>> Life is the educators practical joke in which you spend the first half >>> learning, and the second half learning that everything you learned in >>> the >>> first was wrong. >>> >>> --- On *Fri, 1/15/10, David Ziggy Lubowa <[email protected]>* >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: David Ziggy Lubowa <[email protected]> >>> Subject: RE: [LUG] OT- Google and China >>> To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:30 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > But the real question though is, can Google afford to loose the >>> China? >>> >>> They actually can , Less than 2 percent of Googles $21.8 billion in >>> revenue came from China last year, according to Jefferies & Co. Google >>> rose $2.76 to $589.85 yesterday on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The stock >>> has >>> almost doubled in the past year. >>> >>> You have to cultivate good relationships with the government, so i we >>> would therefore assume Google is not really making so much money in >>> china >>> and can therefore leave it or do what they want. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards; >>> > >>> > Thomas. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thomas Bbosa , CISSP >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > BitWork Technologies (U) Ltd >>> > Plot 135, UMA show Grounds -Lugogo >>> > P.O.BOX 851, Kampala, Uganda >>> > >>> > Tel: +256-414-579099 >>> > >>> > Mob: +256-782480878 >>> > >>> > Fax: +256-414-289218 >>> > >>> > Website: <http://www.bitworktech.com/> http://www.bitworktech.com >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: Daniel Bwente >>> [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> ] >>> > Sent: 15 January 2010 12:25 >>> > To: Linux Users Group Uganda >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT- Google and China >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Insight on the attack Vectors used to hit Google and others, >>> > >>> > >>> http://siblog.mcafee.com/cto/operation-%E2%80%9Caurora%E2%80%9D-hit-google-o >>> > thers/ >>> > >>> > Operation "Aurora" >>> > I am sure you are wondering about the name "Aurora." Based on our >>> > analysis, >>> > "Aurora" was part of the filepath on the attacker's machine that was >>> > included in two of the malware binaries that we have confirmed are >>> > associated with the attack. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Niles Collins >>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > As much as the US needs China for that credit line, China needs the >>> US >>> > because we buy all their products. If the US stopped buying Chinese >>> made >>> > products and China called in the debt owed by the US I think that >>> China >>> > would blink first. This might turn into the beginning of that >>> struggle. >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > LUG mailing list >>> > [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> >>> > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> > >>> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>> (including >>> > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in >>> any >>> > way. >>> > --------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Dan >>> > +256-071-2-552035 >>> > >>> > "You won't have eyes tonight. 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