http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8455712.stm
According to initial reports (see above link) from the BBC, the chief architect of Baidu responded to Google with a blog post on their website which alleged that Google was leaving China for financial reasons only, that this human rights thing is a lie/cover, and that they were just mad they couldn't beat Baidu. It went on to call them hypocrits, etc. According to the BBC, this blog post was then (almost immediately) removed from the site. In my opinion, this blog post was written in haste and anger, and resembled a forum rant by a teenage gamer who got bested by his rival. I don't understand why/how Google's actions would anger the architect of the company which potentially stands to gain the most from this situation, but it apparently did. This emotional response indicates to me that there is more to the Google-Baidu relationship than just market share. In any case, if it turns out this was state-sponsored activity, then it amounts to an act of war. ----- Original message ----- > Yes that is quite possible. The chinese are still a mystery to most. And > most of what they do works or they wouldnt be considered an up an coming > super power. I guess as more details come out we will get the full scope of > what they are doing > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > over on the Kictanet list, one guy has suggested that China attacked > > Google, et. al on purpose, so that Google would react the way they have and > > leave the market clear for Chinese search companies. > > > > An interesting perspective at least. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route > > indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Douglas Onyango <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Like you mention and has has been vindicated by the rise in stock, > > > leaving China itself can be be a plus for Google. The confidence that now > > > many other people have that google will not succumb to pressure can and > > > will give them more business from the rest of the world as well Chinese > > > outside the country and those who can traverse firewalls from the inside > > > :-). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Douglas Onyango +256(0712)981329 > > > Life is the educators practical joke in which you spend the first half > > > learning, and the second half learning that everything you learned in the > > > first was wrong. > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 1/15/10, David Ziggy Lubowa <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: David Ziggy Lubowa <[email protected]> > > > Subject: RE: [LUG] OT- Google and China > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the real question though is, can Google afford to loose the China? > > > > > > They actually can , Less than 2 percent of Google’s $21.8 billion in > > > revenue came from China last year, according to Jefferies & Co. Google > > > rose $2.76 to $589.85 yesterday on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The stock has > > > almost doubled in the past year. > > > > > > You have to cultivate good relationships with the government, so i we > > > would therefore assume Google is not really making so much money in china > > > and can therefore leave it or do what they want. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards; > > > > > > > > Thomas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Bbosa , CISSP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BitWork Technologies (U) Ltd > > > > Plot 135, UMA show Grounds -Lugogo > > > > P.O.BOX 851, Kampala, Uganda > > > > > > > > Tel: +256-414-579099 > > > > > > > > Mob: +256-782480878 > > > > > > > > Fax: +256-414-289218 > > > > > > > > Website: <http://www.bitworktech.com/> http://www.bitworktech.com > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Bwente > > > > [mailto:[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > > > ] > > > > Sent: 15 January 2010 12:25 > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT- Google and China > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insight on the attack Vectors used to hit Google and others, > > > > > > > > > > > http://siblog.mcafee.com/cto/operation-%E2%80%9Caurora%E2%80%9D-hit-google-o > > > > thers/ > > > > > > > > Operation "Aurora" > > > > I am sure you are wondering about the name "Aurora." Based on our > > > > analysis, > > > > "Aurora" was part of the filepath on the attacker's machine that was > > > > included in two of the malware binaries that we have confirmed are > > > > associated with the attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Niles Collins > > > > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > As much as the US needs China for that credit line, China needs the US > > > > because we buy all their products. If the US stopped buying Chinese made > > > > products and China called in the debt owed by the US I think that China > > > > would blink first. This might turn into the beginning of that struggle. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > > > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dan > > > > +256-071-2-552035 > > > > > > > > "You won't have eyes tonight. 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