Hi Tim,

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Tim Schofield wrote:

> Chris, I believe you are mixing patents with copyright, they are very
> different.

I don't believe that I am mixing them up. I was very specifically talking 
about copyright. However they are quite similar. Under the US 
constitution, both were established "to promote the Progress of Science 
and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors 
the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_patent_law]

> Copyright law has been around for hundreds of years.

So has patent law: "Patents in the modern sense originated in 1474, when 
the Republic of Venice  enacted a decree that new and inventive devices, 
once put into practice, had to be communicated to the Republic to obtain 
the right to prevent others from using them." 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent]

> It isn't some malevolent plot by western countries, or by large western 
> corporations.

I didn't say it was a plot, I said it had become, over time, more useful 
to those who have more power to gain even more power, as in "the rich get 
richer, the poor get poorer".

> Copyright protects open source software.

Yes, although open source software contributes something back to the 
public (albeit not usually in the Public Domain), so I think that applying 
copyright law to protect open source software gives more to the public 
than applying to protect closed source.

> I assume you are happy to accept the rights open source gives you,

Yes, but these rights are exceptions to the exclusive right granted by 
copyright. The rights would exist even if copyright did not.

> but with rights come responsibilities.

Says who?

> This list seems to want to take those rights, and ignore their 
> responsibilities.

I take offence at that statement. My understanding is that we are having a 
discussion about the legality of copying, archiving and rebroadcasting 
copyrighted works in Uganda. That doesn't mean that "this list" (or rather 
its members, as the list is a piece of open source software) wants to do 
anything other than discuss said legality.

> i just keep repeating that I believe this attitude to be wrong. You will 
> never convince me that it is right.

Fine, then I will shut up.

Cheers, Chris.
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