Sometimes I believe mankind invented the Internet only to be able to have spirited flame wars with people they never even met :) (if you want to start a flame war with me some time, we could have one over your iPad -- I hate Apple products!)
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Sanga Collins <[email protected]>wrote: > :) This is the lug at its best. There's always a spirited flame war to > bring excitement to an otherwise dull Friday night. I'm still working on my > top 10 2011 tech events and also my top 10 2012 tech predictions so stay > tuned. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < > [email protected]> wrote: > > (Then, again, if I *truly* came across as boastful and arrogant, I am > sorry. It was not my intention. My English is also not very good, so I > might have used certain words in wrong ways.) > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> You are an odd person. Where have I stated that I am some kind of >> Messiah? I have even explicitly stated that "it's a free world", thereby >> marking that my opinions are not any more worth than anyone else's. You >> read things no one has written. >> >> Also, you were the one telling me to check out the facts. I did, and the >> facts agreed with me. Trying to deflect that only shows that you know you >> were mistaken but refuse to show it. >> >> Yes, Uganda is a poor country. I don't see why that is relevant. My point >> is: Concerning ICT development, my country has been where your country is >> now. Looking back, we did some things right, and some things wrong. Would >> it be bad to point out the wrongs to another country so that they don't >> make the same mistakes? >> >> I actually had to look that expression up. Apparently, blowing one's >> trumpet means "to promote oneself; to boast or brag; to tout oneself." The >> whole idea of a discussion is to promote one's ideas, why else would you >> have a discussion? As a matter of fact, I think you're the one blowing your >> horn by trying to push me down, constantly saying I'm ignorant, >> insignificant, a lone wolf, delusional, and various other things. >> >> It's interesting that you chose to bring up Bill Gates. >> >> Anyway, it's bedtime for me now. Tomorrow (well, today since it's past >> midnight) is Christmas Eve; in Sweden we don't celebrate Christmas Day, but >> Christmas Eve instead. How do you celebrate Christmas in Uganda? >> >> Good night, and Merry Christmas! >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Another useless statement >>> >>> ______________________________________ >>> According to the ITU, by the year 2000 the number of Ugandan Internet >>> users were 40000, or barely 0.1% of the population. Compare with 45.5% in >>> my country the same year. >>> ______________________________________ >>> >>> what is the point behind this, Uganda is a poor country, no doubt about >>> that, but proclaiming to be a messiah is simply gibberish, >>> >>> You are no messiah, just an ordinary mortal, feel free to share your >>> ideas, and they are welcome, but people who have done a lot of good in poor >>> countries like Bill Gates, who has achieved so much, dont blow their >>> trumpets. (If am to compare him to you, You will achieve in your entire >>> lifetime less than 0.000000000003% of what he has done - do you like the >>> comparison ? - I guess not - Then enjoy Xmas ) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting that you simply say "no" without referring to any sources. >>>> I have done a quick search on the Internet, and while there isn't much >>>> information about Ugandan history of Internet availability, there are some >>>> other facts which would support my theory, namely: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. According to the CIA Fact book, your telephone communications >>>> were "seriously inadequate" by *2010*. An absence of wiring suggest >>>> no wired Internet access to households. >>>> 2. Most sources seem to state that Uganda leapt straight to cell >>>> network-based Internet access. This technology wasn't even available >>>> until >>>> the nineties at the very earliest. >>>> 3. According to the ITU, by the year 2000 the number of Ugandan >>>> Internet users were 40000, or barely 0.1% of the population. Compare >>>> with >>>> 45.5% in my country the same year. >>>> 4. The Hollerith computer was a punch-card operated computer >>>> machine. It was not networked, and definitely had no Internet access. >>>> Therefore, your bringing it up is clearly a sign of your ignorance on >>>> the >>>> subject, since we were discussing computer *networks*. >>>> >>>> Now, next time, do some research before exposing *your* ignorance in >>>> public. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Hollerith Electronic computer was put in production in the 1960s >>>>> at the East African Railways >>>>> Makerere University also had a similar facility, >>>>> >>>>> now next time, do some research before exposing your ignorance in >>>>> public >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I suppose it depends on your definition of the word "ignorance". >>>>>> Unfortunately, many people on the Internet use American English despite >>>>>> not >>>>>> being American, and so I have become used to assuming people use words in >>>>>> their American definitions. In the USA, the word "ignorant" is much more >>>>>> offensive than in Britain, as it over there also implies that one does >>>>>> not >>>>>> want to try to *stop* being ignorant. I do favour British English, >>>>>> so my apologies for being jaded. Old habits die hard :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I was not really referring to any particular country or region. The >>>>>> Internet started gaining in size in the eighties and started getting >>>>>> popular in the nineties, but before the Internet we had dial-up bulletin >>>>>> board systems. They started in the seventies and were quite popular >>>>>> before >>>>>> dwindling in the nineties due to Internet gaining in popularity. I >>>>>> sometimes miss the simplicity of the BBS era, back when the idea of two >>>>>> machines communicating was a new bold idea. I am not suggesting that I am >>>>>> familiar with Ugandan ICT history, but I think I am not too far off when >>>>>> I >>>>>> posit that you did not have computer networks back in the seventies. Am I >>>>>> wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, you are assuming things. You are assuming I am on a lone wolf >>>>>> mission; a quick search on the Internet will however show you how popular >>>>>> ad blocking is. It is not some nutcracker idea I have thrown together >>>>>> over >>>>>> a bottle of wine; it is a fairly large movement. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ads are not used to convey "good messages". For starters, Internet >>>>>> advertising is too expensive for that. The only time a sane person would >>>>>> choose to advertise on the Internet is when she endeavours to make money >>>>>> out of you in some way. If you have a good message, you put it on a web >>>>>> page all by itself; you don't litter others' pages with it in small >>>>>> little >>>>>> boxes. I can assure you, you will not miss anything by blocking ads with >>>>>> a >>>>>> sensible ad blocker configured the right way. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am simply stating facts, and there is nothing wrong with being >>>>>>> ignorant, for example am ignorant about fish, and am happy to remain >>>>>>> ignorant in that respect >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________________ >>>>>>> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. ( Are you >>>>>>> referring to DR Congo ?) >>>>>>> __________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> These parts have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could >>>>>>> bring, and also some of the pitfalls. - So Ad blocking is the silver >>>>>>> bullet, thats simply a fiction of your imagination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> I would like to help people evade these pitfalls). - Good luck >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ad blocking can be effective if its a mass movement like "occupy", >>>>>>> however the lone wolf efforts by a one Benjamin are simply a drop in the >>>>>>> .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Assuming you have a good message and you broadcast it through an >>>>>>> Internet Advertisement, should this be blocked too, >>>>>>> I hate ads, but i will not throw the baby out with the bath water >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I simply listed the common benefits of using an ad blocker; I never >>>>>>>> said that any of them would necessarily apply to you. You made that >>>>>>>> assumption. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Internet neutrality argument is valid for everyone. Apparently, >>>>>>>> you cannot find any valid counterargument to this, so you resort to >>>>>>>> patronising insults. Your response is based on arrogance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, it's a free world. Use one or don't use one. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Mugarura Cavin < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You wrongly assume that all users have the same needs/constraints >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some of the advantages you highlight like battery life, are quite >>>>>>>>> useless to me, >>>>>>>>> I wont point out any other items, Ad blocking is good but useless >>>>>>>>> for me, for reasons, you might not understand, so I will spare you the >>>>>>>>> details >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The statement below is based on ignorance >>>>>>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>>>>>> (Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These >>>>>>>>> parts have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> also some of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these >>>>>>>>> pitfalls). >>>>>>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the very same article, it says that you can disable the >>>>>>>>>> feature altogether and block *all* ads if you so choose. You >>>>>>>>>> could also create your own whitelist if there are some web pages for >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> to want to enable ads. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are lots of reasons to block ads. Besides easing stress on >>>>>>>>>> your network, you ease stress on your computer by not having to show >>>>>>>>>> unnecessary image or flash ads. This improves battery life and >>>>>>>>>> overall >>>>>>>>>> longevity in the long run. There are also privacy issues, where many >>>>>>>>>> ad >>>>>>>>>> firms track individual computers and their owners' habits. Last but >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> least, ads are harmful to the Internet neutrality. Imagine a web >>>>>>>>>> site. >>>>>>>>>> Let's say it's an independent digital newspaper. It is financed by >>>>>>>>>> ads via >>>>>>>>>> a well-renowned firm, and without this income it could not exist. >>>>>>>>>> One day, >>>>>>>>>> this newspaper uncovers something huge, perhaps some huge scandal in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> financial world with many large companies involved. The newspaper, >>>>>>>>>> intent >>>>>>>>>> on bringing truth to the people, publish a story on it, with >>>>>>>>>> promises to >>>>>>>>>> disclose more in time. What happens now? If one of the major >>>>>>>>>> companies >>>>>>>>>> involved in the scandal doesn't already own the ad firm financing the >>>>>>>>>> newspaper, they will aspire to do so in the very close future. They >>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> then proceed to threaten to cut off the ad revenues to the newspaper >>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> they do not cease the disclosure. Incidents such as this has >>>>>>>>>> happened on >>>>>>>>>> occasion in Europe and in America, so it is not that unlikely to >>>>>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>>>>> Revenues via ads is dangerous, because it is the advertisers who >>>>>>>>>> ultimately >>>>>>>>>> decide what you may write on your page. Blocking ads en masse is a >>>>>>>>>> way of >>>>>>>>>> making ads unreliable as a primary income for a web site, thus >>>>>>>>>> making it >>>>>>>>>> less common for web sites to do so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These >>>>>>>>>> parts have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> also some of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these >>>>>>>>>> pitfalls. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Mugarura Cavin < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and in the very same article, am not sure you read this >>>>>>>>>>> section, either way, i dont see any need to use an ad block >>>>>>>>>>> service/software/tool, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Will all "acceptable" ads be unblocked? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No. Unfortunately, it isn't technically possible to recognize >>>>>>>>>>> "acceptable" ads automatically. We have >>>>>>>>>>> agreements<https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements>with >>>>>>>>>>> some websites and advertisers that only advertising matching our >>>>>>>>>>> criteria >>>>>>>>>>> will be used, their ads will be unblocked then. We hope to grow our >>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> significantly over time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 December 2011 17:34, Mugarura Cavin >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be my friend if it had grey matter, am not sure it >>>>>>>>>>>>> does, >>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, if it would block spam ads, not simply any ads, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ads are useful (1%), why should i block ads, and miss out on a >>>>>>>>>>>>> deal, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you want to read this >>>>>>>>>>>> https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Hari >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archives: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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