Another useless statement ______________________________________ According to the ITU, by the year 2000 the number of Ugandan Internet users were 40000, or barely 0.1% of the population. Compare with 45.5% in my country the same year. ______________________________________
what is the point behind this, Uganda is a poor country, no doubt about that, but proclaiming to be a messiah is simply gibberish, You are no messiah, just an ordinary mortal, feel free to share your ideas, and they are welcome, but people who have done a lot of good in poor countries like Bill Gates, who has achieved so much, dont blow their trumpets. (If am to compare him to you, You will achieve in your entire lifetime less than 0.000000000003% of what he has done - do you like the comparison ? - I guess not - Then enjoy Xmas ) On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < [email protected]> wrote: > Interesting that you simply say "no" without referring to any sources. I > have done a quick search on the Internet, and while there isn't much > information about Ugandan history of Internet availability, there are some > other facts which would support my theory, namely: > > > 1. According to the CIA Fact book, your telephone communications were > "seriously inadequate" by *2010*. An absence of wiring suggest no > wired Internet access to households. > 2. Most sources seem to state that Uganda leapt straight to cell > network-based Internet access. This technology wasn't even available until > the nineties at the very earliest. > 3. According to the ITU, by the year 2000 the number of Ugandan > Internet users were 40000, or barely 0.1% of the population. Compare with > 45.5% in my country the same year. > 4. The Hollerith computer was a punch-card operated computer machine. > It was not networked, and definitely had no Internet access. Therefore, > your bringing it up is clearly a sign of your ignorance on the subject, > since we were discussing computer *networks*. > > Now, next time, do some research before exposing *your* ignorance in > public. > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> The Hollerith Electronic computer was put in production in the 1960s at >> the East African Railways >> Makerere University also had a similar facility, >> >> now next time, do some research before exposing your ignorance in public >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I suppose it depends on your definition of the word "ignorance". >>> Unfortunately, many people on the Internet use American English despite not >>> being American, and so I have become used to assuming people use words in >>> their American definitions. In the USA, the word "ignorant" is much more >>> offensive than in Britain, as it over there also implies that one does not >>> want to try to *stop* being ignorant. I do favour British English, so >>> my apologies for being jaded. Old habits die hard :) >>> >>> I was not really referring to any particular country or region. The >>> Internet started gaining in size in the eighties and started getting >>> popular in the nineties, but before the Internet we had dial-up bulletin >>> board systems. They started in the seventies and were quite popular before >>> dwindling in the nineties due to Internet gaining in popularity. I >>> sometimes miss the simplicity of the BBS era, back when the idea of two >>> machines communicating was a new bold idea. I am not suggesting that I am >>> familiar with Ugandan ICT history, but I think I am not too far off when I >>> posit that you did not have computer networks back in the seventies. Am I >>> wrong? >>> >>> Again, you are assuming things. You are assuming I am on a lone wolf >>> mission; a quick search on the Internet will however show you how popular >>> ad blocking is. It is not some nutcracker idea I have thrown together over >>> a bottle of wine; it is a fairly large movement. >>> >>> Ads are not used to convey "good messages". For starters, Internet >>> advertising is too expensive for that. The only time a sane person would >>> choose to advertise on the Internet is when she endeavours to make money >>> out of you in some way. If you have a good message, you put it on a web >>> page all by itself; you don't litter others' pages with it in small little >>> boxes. I can assure you, you will not miss anything by blocking ads with a >>> sensible ad blocker configured the right way. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Am simply stating facts, and there is nothing wrong with being >>>> ignorant, for example am ignorant about fish, and am happy to remain >>>> ignorant in that respect >>>> >>>> __________________________________________ >>>> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. ( Are you >>>> referring to DR Congo ?) >>>> __________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> These parts have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could >>>> bring, and also some of the pitfalls. - So Ad blocking is the silver >>>> bullet, thats simply a fiction of your imagination >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> I would like to help people evade these pitfalls). - Good luck >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ad blocking can be effective if its a mass movement like "occupy", >>>> however the lone wolf efforts by a one Benjamin are simply a drop in the >>>> .... >>>> >>>> Assuming you have a good message and you broadcast it through an >>>> Internet Advertisement, should this be blocked too, >>>> I hate ads, but i will not throw the baby out with the bath water >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I simply listed the common benefits of using an ad blocker; I never >>>>> said that any of them would necessarily apply to you. You made that >>>>> assumption. >>>>> >>>>> The Internet neutrality argument is valid for everyone. Apparently, >>>>> you cannot find any valid counterargument to this, so you resort to >>>>> patronising insults. Your response is based on arrogance. >>>>> >>>>> However, it's a free world. Use one or don't use one. :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Mugarura Cavin >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You wrongly assume that all users have the same needs/constraints >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the advantages you highlight like battery life, are quite >>>>>> useless to me, >>>>>> I wont point out any other items, Ad blocking is good but useless for >>>>>> me, for reasons, you might not understand, so I will spare you the >>>>>> details >>>>>> >>>>>> The statement below is based on ignorance >>>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>>> (Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These parts >>>>>> have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, and also >>>>>> some >>>>>> of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these pitfalls). >>>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the very same article, it says that you can disable the feature >>>>>>> altogether and block *all* ads if you so choose. You could also >>>>>>> create your own whitelist if there are some web pages for which to want >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> enable ads. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are lots of reasons to block ads. Besides easing stress on >>>>>>> your network, you ease stress on your computer by not having to show >>>>>>> unnecessary image or flash ads. This improves battery life and overall >>>>>>> longevity in the long run. There are also privacy issues, where many ad >>>>>>> firms track individual computers and their owners' habits. Last but not >>>>>>> least, ads are harmful to the Internet neutrality. Imagine a web site. >>>>>>> Let's say it's an independent digital newspaper. It is financed by ads >>>>>>> via >>>>>>> a well-renowned firm, and without this income it could not exist. One >>>>>>> day, >>>>>>> this newspaper uncovers something huge, perhaps some huge scandal in the >>>>>>> financial world with many large companies involved. The newspaper, >>>>>>> intent >>>>>>> on bringing truth to the people, publish a story on it, with promises to >>>>>>> disclose more in time. What happens now? If one of the major companies >>>>>>> involved in the scandal doesn't already own the ad firm financing the >>>>>>> newspaper, they will aspire to do so in the very close future. They will >>>>>>> then proceed to threaten to cut off the ad revenues to the newspaper if >>>>>>> they do not cease the disclosure. Incidents such as this has happened on >>>>>>> occasion in Europe and in America, so it is not that unlikely to happen. >>>>>>> Revenues via ads is dangerous, because it is the advertisers who >>>>>>> ultimately >>>>>>> decide what you may write on your page. Blocking ads en masse is a way >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> making ads unreliable as a primary income for a web site, thus making it >>>>>>> less common for web sites to do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These parts >>>>>>> have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, and also >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these pitfalls. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, and in the very same article, am not sure you read this >>>>>>>> section, either way, i dont see any need to use an ad block >>>>>>>> service/software/tool, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will all "acceptable" ads be unblocked? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. Unfortunately, it isn't technically possible to recognize >>>>>>>> "acceptable" ads automatically. We have >>>>>>>> agreements<https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements>with >>>>>>>> some websites and advertisers that only advertising matching our >>>>>>>> criteria >>>>>>>> will be used, their ads will be unblocked then. We hope to grow our >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> significantly over time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 23 December 2011 17:34, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would be my friend if it had grey matter, am not sure it does, >>>>>>>>>> for example, if it would block spam ads, not simply any ads, >>>>>>>>>> ads are useful (1%), why should i block ads, and miss out on a >>>>>>>>>> deal, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you want to read this >>>>>>>>> https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Hari >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Mailing list archives: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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