The Hollerith Electronic computer was put in production in the 1960s at the East African Railways Makerere University also had a similar facility,
now next time, do some research before exposing your ignorance in public On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < [email protected]> wrote: > I suppose it depends on your definition of the word "ignorance". > Unfortunately, many people on the Internet use American English despite not > being American, and so I have become used to assuming people use words in > their American definitions. In the USA, the word "ignorant" is much more > offensive than in Britain, as it over there also implies that one does not > want to try to *stop* being ignorant. I do favour British English, so my > apologies for being jaded. Old habits die hard :) > > I was not really referring to any particular country or region. The > Internet started gaining in size in the eighties and started getting > popular in the nineties, but before the Internet we had dial-up bulletin > board systems. They started in the seventies and were quite popular before > dwindling in the nineties due to Internet gaining in popularity. I > sometimes miss the simplicity of the BBS era, back when the idea of two > machines communicating was a new bold idea. I am not suggesting that I am > familiar with Ugandan ICT history, but I think I am not too far off when I > posit that you did not have computer networks back in the seventies. Am I > wrong? > > Again, you are assuming things. You are assuming I am on a lone wolf > mission; a quick search on the Internet will however show you how popular > ad blocking is. It is not some nutcracker idea I have thrown together over > a bottle of wine; it is a fairly large movement. > > Ads are not used to convey "good messages". For starters, Internet > advertising is too expensive for that. The only time a sane person would > choose to advertise on the Internet is when she endeavours to make money > out of you in some way. If you have a good message, you put it on a web > page all by itself; you don't litter others' pages with it in small little > boxes. I can assure you, you will not miss anything by blocking ads with a > sensible ad blocker configured the right way. > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Am simply stating facts, and there is nothing wrong with being ignorant, >> for example am ignorant about fish, and am happy to remain ignorant in that >> respect >> >> __________________________________________ >> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. ( Are you >> referring to DR Congo ?) >> __________________________________________ >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________________ >> These parts have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, >> and also some of the pitfalls. - So Ad blocking is the silver bullet, thats >> simply a fiction of your imagination >> >> __________________________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________ >> I would like to help people evade these pitfalls). - Good luck >> _______________________________________ >> >> >> >> Ad blocking can be effective if its a mass movement like "occupy", >> however the lone wolf efforts by a one Benjamin are simply a drop in the >> .... >> >> Assuming you have a good message and you broadcast it through an Internet >> Advertisement, should this be blocked too, >> I hate ads, but i will not throw the baby out with the bath water >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I simply listed the common benefits of using an ad blocker; I never said >>> that any of them would necessarily apply to you. You made that assumption. >>> >>> The Internet neutrality argument is valid for everyone. Apparently, you >>> cannot find any valid counterargument to this, so you resort to patronising >>> insults. Your response is based on arrogance. >>> >>> However, it's a free world. Use one or don't use one. :) >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> You wrongly assume that all users have the same needs/constraints >>>> >>>> Some of the advantages you highlight like battery life, are quite >>>> useless to me, >>>> I wont point out any other items, Ad blocking is good but useless for >>>> me, for reasons, you might not understand, so I will spare you the details >>>> >>>> The statement below is based on ignorance >>>> ___________________________________ >>>> (Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These parts >>>> have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, and also some >>>> of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these pitfalls). >>>> ___________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the very same article, it says that you can disable the feature >>>>> altogether and block *all* ads if you so choose. You could also >>>>> create your own whitelist if there are some web pages for which to want to >>>>> enable ads. >>>>> >>>>> There are lots of reasons to block ads. Besides easing stress on your >>>>> network, you ease stress on your computer by not having to show >>>>> unnecessary >>>>> image or flash ads. This improves battery life and overall longevity in >>>>> the >>>>> long run. There are also privacy issues, where many ad firms track >>>>> individual computers and their owners' habits. Last but not least, ads are >>>>> harmful to the Internet neutrality. Imagine a web site. Let's say it's an >>>>> independent digital newspaper. It is financed by ads via a well-renowned >>>>> firm, and without this income it could not exist. One day, this newspaper >>>>> uncovers something huge, perhaps some huge scandal in the financial world >>>>> with many large companies involved. The newspaper, intent on bringing >>>>> truth >>>>> to the people, publish a story on it, with promises to disclose more in >>>>> time. What happens now? If one of the major companies involved in the >>>>> scandal doesn't already own the ad firm financing the newspaper, they will >>>>> aspire to do so in the very close future. They will then proceed to >>>>> threaten to cut off the ad revenues to the newspaper if they do not cease >>>>> the disclosure. Incidents such as this has happened on occasion in Europe >>>>> and in America, so it is not that unlikely to happen. Revenues via ads is >>>>> dangerous, because it is the advertisers who ultimately decide what you >>>>> may >>>>> write on your page. Blocking ads en masse is a way of making ads >>>>> unreliable >>>>> as a primary income for a web site, thus making it less common for web >>>>> sites to do so. >>>>> >>>>> Internet is relatively new in some parts of the world. These parts >>>>> have yet to experience the full benefit Internet could bring, and also >>>>> some >>>>> of the pitfalls. I would like to help people evade these pitfalls. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Mugarura Cavin >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, and in the very same article, am not sure you read this >>>>>> section, either way, i dont see any need to use an ad block >>>>>> service/software/tool, >>>>>> >>>>>> Will all "acceptable" ads be unblocked? >>>>>> >>>>>> No. Unfortunately, it isn't technically possible to recognize >>>>>> "acceptable" ads automatically. We have >>>>>> agreements<https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements>with >>>>>> some websites and advertisers that only advertising matching our criteria >>>>>> will be used, their ads will be unblocked then. We hope to grow our list >>>>>> significantly over time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 December 2011 17:34, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be my friend if it had grey matter, am not sure it does, >>>>>>>> for example, if it would block spam ads, not simply any ads, >>>>>>>> ads are useful (1%), why should i block ads, and miss out on a >>>>>>>> deal, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you want to read this >>>>>>> https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Hari >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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