cavin, why dont you just stop embarrasing yourself in public? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS
The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based satellite navigation system that provides location and time information in all weather, anywhere on or near the Earth, where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible by anyone with a GPS receiver. The US government, is 1 entity. You loose, Benjamin wins. Garmin is not a GPS provider, they sell GPS receivers. So, they are a GPS Reveiver provider. No matter what their own website says. On Monday 20 February 2012 04:19:54 Mugarura Cavin wrote: > http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGarmin/ > > Since its inception in 1989 by Gary Burrell and Dr. Min Kao, Garmin > has evolved as the leading, worldwide provider of navigation, > communication and information devices and applications, most of which > are enabled by GPS technology. > > _____________________________________ > > Oranges and Apples > > GPS technology can not be compared to the Internet, > With GPS you are dealing with a commodity which doesnt change frequently, > Ofcourse it does, if there's an accident, road is partially closed, or > blocked for construction > > Their revenue model is different, but i dont want to sweat the small stuff > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: > > http://www.guide2gps.com/gps-providers/ > > > > again this is a side show, > > The thrust of my thread wasnt about GPS providers > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Cavin Mugarura <[email protected]> wrote: > >> They are GPS providers period > >> Maybe u can define a GPS provider > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. > >> > >> However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. > >> They produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS > >> service itself, which is to say, the satellites and their > >> maintenance. > >> > >> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay > >> once for the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some > >> provider a monthly subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or > >> similar. There are map providers, where you pay regularly for updated > >> maps, but there are no "GPS providers". > >> > >> I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted to > >> make everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service > >> provider, Belkin is not a GPS provider.>> > >> Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" <[email protected]>: > >>> their technology interferes with GPS signals, > >>> ______________ > >>> > >>> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it > >>> > >>> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al > >>> > >>> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, Again, > >>> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee > >>> am more comfortable talking about Golf > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] > >>> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, technically there is > >>> > *one* > >>> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for example. > >>> > A GPS device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped > >>> > beacon signals from several satellites with known positions and > >>> > calculates its position on the surface based on the > >>> > discrepancies in the time stamps (speed of radio waves times > >>> > amount of time passed since emission equals the distance to the > >>> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those in > >>> > the satellites. > >>> > > >>> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a > >>> > lot of > >>> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think > >>> > that it is the other way around, that the LightSquared system > >>> > is interfering with GPS devices. > >>> > > >>> > Just a random thought in the night. > >>> > > >>> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart devices, > >>> >> that wont interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] > >>> >> > <[email protected]>>>> >> > > >>> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could they be > >>> >> >> interfering with each > >>> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small > >>> >> >> bandwidth, the two frequencies shouldn't overlap. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? I'm curious. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue on > >>> >> > the Net > >>> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband system > >>> >> > that > >>> >> > >>> >> interferes with GPS > >>> >> > >>> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR Spectrum!" > >>> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were "rigged" > >>> >> > http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT World) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > -- > >>> >> > Cheers, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > McTim > >>> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where > >>> >> > it is. A route indicates how we get there." 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The mailing list host is not > >>> > responsible for them in any way. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> > >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>> [email protected] Mailing list archives: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list settings: > >>> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> > >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >>> (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not > >>> responsible for them in any way.>> > >> Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. > >> > >> However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. > >> They > >> produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS > >> service > >> itself, which is to say, the satellites and their maintenance. > >> > >> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay > >> once > >> for the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some provider > >> a > >> monthly subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or similar. There > >> are map providers, where you pay regularly for updated maps, but > >> there are no "GPS providers". > >> > >> I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted to > >> make everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service > >> provider, Belkin is not a GPS provider. > >> > >> Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" <[email protected]>: > >>> their technology interferes with GPS signals, > >>> ______________ > >>> > >>> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it > >>> > >>> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al > >>> > >>> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, Again, > >>> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee > >>> am more comfortable talking about Golf > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] > >>> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, technically there is > >>> > *one* > >>> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for example. > >>> > A GPS device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped > >>> > beacon signals>>> > >>> from > >>> > >>> > several satellites with known positions and calculates its > >>> > position on>>> > >>> the > >>> > >>> > surface based on the discrepancies in the time stamps (speed of > >>> > radio > >>> > >>> waves > >>> > >>> > times amount of time passed since emission equals the distance > >>> > to the > >>> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those in > >>> > the > >>> > satellites. > >>> > > >>> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a > >>> > lot of > >>> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think > >>> > that it is the other way around, that the LightSquared system > >>> > is interfering with>>> > >>> GPS > >>> > >>> > devices. > >>> > > >>> > Just a random thought in the night. > >>> > > >>> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart devices, > >>> >> that wont interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, > >>> >> > >>> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] > >>> >> > <[email protected]>>>> >> > > >>> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could they be > >>> >> >> interfering>>> > >>> with > >>> > >>> >> >> each > >>> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small > >>> >> >> bandwidth, the two frequencies shouldn't overlap. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? I'm curious. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue on > >>> >> > the Net > >>> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband system > >>> >> > that > >>> >> > >>> >> interferes with GPS > >>> >> > >>> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR Spectrum!" > >>> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were "rigged" > >>> >> > http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT World) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > -- > >>> >> > Cheers, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > McTim > >>> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where > >>> >> > it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > >>> >> > >>> >> ________________________________ > >>> >> > >>> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails > >>> >> > to: > >>> >> > [email protected] > >>> >> > Mailing list archives: > >>> >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list > >>> >> > settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To > >>> >> > unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> >> > > >>> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by > >>> >> > INFOCOM: > >>> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> >> > > >>> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted > >>> >> > them > >>> > >>> (including > >>> > >>> >> > attachments if any). 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