@Cavin u gave a us your "reference" http://www.guide2gps.com/gps-providers/ maybe spend a minute and read it again -- Erone
----- Original Message ----- > From: Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> > To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [LUG] light squared > > http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGarmin/ > > Since its inception in 1989 by Gary Burrell and Dr. Min Kao, Garmin > has evolved as the leading, worldwide provider of navigation, > communication and information devices and applications, most of which > are enabled by GPS technology. > > _____________________________________ > > Oranges and Apples > > GPS technology can not be compared to the Internet, > With GPS you are dealing with a commodity which doesnt change frequently, > Ofcourse it does, if there's an accident, road is partially closed, or > blocked for construction > > Their revenue model is different, but i dont want to sweat the small stuff > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> > wrote: >> http://www.guide2gps.com/gps-providers/ >> >> again this is a side show, >> The thrust of my thread wasnt about GPS providers >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Cavin Mugarura <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> They are GPS providers period >>> Maybe u can define a GPS provider >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. >>> >>> However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. > They produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS service > itself, which is to say, the satellites and their maintenance. >>> >>> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay > once for the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some provider a > monthly subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or similar. There are map > providers, where you pay regularly for updated maps, but there are no "GPS > providers". >>> >>> I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted > to make everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service provider, > Belkin is not a GPS provider. >>> >>> Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" > <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> their technology interferes with GPS signals, >>>> ______________ >>>> >>>> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it >>>> >>>> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al >>>> >>>> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, > Again, >>>> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee >>>> am more comfortable talking about Golf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, > technically there is *one* >>>> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for > example. A GPS >>>> > device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped > beacon signals from >>>> > several satellites with known positions and calculates its > position on the >>>> > surface based on the discrepancies in the time stamps (speed > of radio waves >>>> > times amount of time passed since emission equals the distance > to the >>>> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those > in the >>>> > satellites. >>>> > >>>> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a > lot of >>>> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think > that it is >>>> > the other way around, that the LightSquared system is > interfering with GPS >>>> > devices. >>>> > >>>> > Just a random thought in the night. >>>> > >>>> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart > devices, that wont >>>> >> interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] > <[email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could > they be interfering with >>>> >> >> each >>>> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small > bandwidth, the two >>>> >> >> frequencies shouldn't overlap. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? > I'm curious. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue > on the Net >>>> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband > system that >>>> >> > >>>> >> interferes with GPS >>>> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR > Spectrum!" >>>> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were > "rigged" http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT >>>> >> > World) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Cheers, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > McTim >>>> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address > indicates where it is. A >>>> >> > route indicates how we get there." 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The mailing list host is not responsible > for them in >>>> > any way. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>> >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>> >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>> >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for > them in any way. >>> >>> >>> Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. >>> >>> However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. > They >>> produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS > service >>> itself, which is to say, the satellites and their maintenance. >>> >>> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay > once >>> for the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some provider a >>> monthly subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or similar. There > are >>> map providers, where you pay regularly for updated maps, but there are > no >>> "GPS providers". >>> >>> I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted > to make >>> everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service provider, >>> Belkin is not a GPS provider. >>> Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" > <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> their technology interferes with GPS signals, >>>> ______________ >>>> >>>> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it >>>> >>>> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al >>>> >>>> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, > Again, >>>> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee >>>> am more comfortable talking about Golf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, > technically there is *one* >>>> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for > example. A GPS >>>> > device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped > beacon signals >>>> from >>>> > several satellites with known positions and calculates its > position on >>>> the >>>> > surface based on the discrepancies in the time stamps (speed > of radio >>>> waves >>>> > times amount of time passed since emission equals the distance > to the >>>> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those > in the >>>> > satellites. >>>> > >>>> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a > lot of >>>> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think > that it is >>>> > the other way around, that the LightSquared system is > interfering with >>>> GPS >>>> > devices. >>>> > >>>> > Just a random thought in the night. >>>> > >>>> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart > devices, that wont >>>> >> interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] > <[email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could > they be interfering >>>> with >>>> >> >> each >>>> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small > bandwidth, the two >>>> >> >> frequencies shouldn't overlap. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? > I'm curious. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue > on the Net >>>> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband > system that >>>> >> > >>>> >> interferes with GPS >>>> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR > Spectrum!" >>>> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were > "rigged" http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT >>>> >> > World) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Cheers, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > McTim >>>> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address > indicates where it is. A >>>> >> > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >>>> >> > >>>> >> ________________________________ >>>> >> >>>> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing > e-mails to: >>>> >> > [email protected] >>>> >> > Mailing list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >> > Mailing list settings: > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>> >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>> >> > >>>> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by > INFOCOM: >>>> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever > posted them >>>> (including >>>> >> > attachments if any). 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