That page is referring to maps and routing in GPS systems, which I have already said *is* provided by different providers just as you described. GPS in itself, however, is a free service with only one provider. The dry positioning system, that is, the time stamped beacon signal system. Do you understand what I was trying to say now?
Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: http://www.guide2gps.com/gps-providers/ again this is a side show, The thrust of my thread wasnt about GPS providers On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Cavin Mugarura <[email protected]> wrote: > They are GPS providers period > Maybe u can define a GPS provider > > > > > Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. > > However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. They > produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS service > itself, which is to say, the satellites and their maintenance. > > It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay once for > the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some provider a monthly > subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or similar. There are map > providers, where you pay regularly for updated maps, but there are no "GPS > providers". > > I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted to make > everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service provider, Belkin > is not a GPS provider. > > Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" <[email protected]>: >> >> their technology interferes with GPS signals, >> ______________ >> >> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it >> >> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al >> >> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, Again, >> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee >> am more comfortable talking about Golf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, technically there is *one* >> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for example. A GPS >> > device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped beacon signals >> > from >> > several satellites with known positions and calculates its position on the >> > surface based on the discrepancies in the time stamps (speed of radio waves >> > times amount of time passed since emission equals the distance to the >> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those in the >> > satellites. >> > >> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a lot of >> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think that it is >> > the other way around, that the LightSquared system is interfering with GPS >> > devices. >> > >> > Just a random thought in the night. >> > >> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart devices, that wont >> >> interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could they be interfering with >> >> >> each >> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small bandwidth, the two >> >> >> frequencies shouldn't overlap. >> >> > >> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? I'm curious. >> >> > >> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue on the Net >> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: >> >> > >> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband system that >> >> > >> >> interferes with GPS >> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) >> >> > >> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR Spectrum!" >> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) >> >> > >> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were "rigged" http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT >> >> > World) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > McTim >> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> >> > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> > >> >>_____________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> > >> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> > >> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> > >> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them >> >> > in >> >> > any way. >> >>_____________________________________________ >> >> >> >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> [email protected] >> >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> >> any way. >> > >> > >> >_____________________________________________ >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> > >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> > [email protected] >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> > >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> > any way. >>_____________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> any way. > > > Ah, yes, I missed that. Sorry. > > However, the companies you listed are GPS *vendors*, not providers. They > produce the GPS terminals, sure, but they do not provide the GPS service > itself, which is to say, the satellites and their maintenance. > > It may sound like I'm splitting hairs, but my point is you only pay once > for the GPS product, to the vendor. You do not then pay some provider a > monthly subscription fee as if it were a cell phone or similar. There are > map providers, where you pay regularly for updated maps, but there are no > "GPS providers". > > I'm sure it was just an ill-chosen word on your behalf. Just wanted to make > everything clear. Just as D-Link is not an internet service provider, > Belkin is not a GPS provider. > Den 20 feb 2012 00:19 skrev "Mugarura Cavin" <[email protected]>: > >> their technology interferes with GPS signals, >> ______________ >> >> If you read my first thread, this line was part of it >> >> and yes, they are GPS providers, Garmin, Cobra, Belkin,et al >> >> The Light squared technology interferes with the GPS systems, Again, >> as stated earlier, telkom is not my cup of coffee >> am more comfortable talking about Golf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:12 PM, [email protected] >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > There are no GPS "providers". Well, okay, technically there is *one* >> > provider, but not in the same way cell phones work, for example. A GPS >> > device does not transmit; it merely receives timestamped beacon signals >> from >> > several satellites with known positions and calculates its position on >> the >> > surface based on the discrepancies in the time stamps (speed of radio >> waves >> > times amount of time passed since emission equals the distance to the >> > emitting source). The only GPS transmitters around are those in the >> > satellites. >> > >> > If the GPS system is interfering with LightSquared, changing a lot of >> > satellites will be expensive. I am, however, inclined to think that it is >> > the other way around, that the LightSquared system is interfering with >> GPS >> > devices. >> > >> > Just a random thought in the night. >> > >> > Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> The FCC can tell the GPS providers to produce smart devices, that wont >> >> interfere, but who meets the cost for this upgrade, >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM, McTim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On 2/19/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> If they are on adjacent frequencies, how could they be interfering >> with >> >> >> each >> >> >> other? Given that one keeps it civil with a small bandwidth, the two >> >> >> frequencies shouldn't overlap. >> >> > >> >> > FCC was sold a load of FUD >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have any links for further reading? I'm curious. >> >> > >> >> > Lauren weinstein has posted extensively on this issue on the Net >> >> > neutrality list, here are some links: >> >> > >> >> > FCC revokes LightSquared's approval for broadband system that >> >> > >> >> interferes with GPS >> >> > http://j.mp/wYXv53 (New York Times) >> >> > >> >> > LightSquared to FCC: "Screw GPS -- It's OUR Spectrum!" >> >> > http://j.mp/sbTKyI (ars technica) >> >> > >> >> > LightSquared claims GPS tests were "rigged" http://j.mp/AqqsyA (IT >> >> > World) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > McTim >> >> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> >> > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> > >> >>_____________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> > >> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> > >> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> > >> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including >> >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for >> them in >> >> > any way. >> >>_____________________________________________ >> >> >> >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> [email protected] >> >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them >> in >> >> any way. >> > >> > >> >_____________________________________________ >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> > >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> > >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> > any way. >>_____________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). 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