+ 1 to your statements.

Regarding how tethering option is disabled, Apple just keeps a database of
carriers and will just hide the option if that specific MCC & MNC
combination doesn't match the ones allowed to use it..and this happens as
soon as you connect/sync with itunes.

Its the same issue with trying to use a  different APN on an iPhone. The
option is usually hidden because the carriers give apple the specific
configurations to use thus the user shouldn't change. This can be
inconveniencing if your are techie and need to perform some tests.

Kind Regards,
Wilson


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM, David Lubowa <[email protected]>wrote:

> My first thought was that the feature could be in the STK, seeing in USA
> to create more revenue streams they charge per feature, and teethering is
> not native in ios as it is with droid if i am not mistaken, so that made
> sense, i.e appearing and dissapearing of the option when he puts in his
> american sim.
>
> What i cannot figure out is what kind of BSS/OSS infrastructure would
> explicitly deny teethering based on end device, but i guess Apple would
> since they make the phones further increasing there negotiation power when
> it comes down to revenue sharing, clearly if this is open the telco is set
> to make tones of money the opposite makes the telco a slave to apple till
> they want to make that move, just thinking out loud anyway as am still
> puzzled.
>
> However i think the orange employee/support staff really has no clue about
> this kind of stuff best answer was it will be activated on this day or this
> year ,playbook tactics.
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 14, 2012, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > I was also SHOCKED. By the way, the iPhone is Colin’s personal phone not
> bought from Orange Uganda.
> >
> > He seems to hint that the iPhone has some open services telcos can use
> to cripple users phones.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of David Lubowa
> > Sent: 14 May 2012 11:02
> > To: Uganda Linux User Group
> > Subject: Re: [LUG] iPhone 4s tethering
> >
> >
> >
> > Dropping in late on this BUT lets consider a few things;
> >
> > - Orange employees who have droid phones use the teethering option(this
> i know 100%)
> >
> > Apple always has specific tightly knit contracts with carriers dictating
> how the devices are used in the network, seeing 4s is fairly new and the
> first phone was a 3gs it would make sense that whatever allowed
> functionality based on signed SLA's with Apple would not allow this feature
> on the network, considering this was a feature previously only allowed
> after jail breaking the iphone which had many consequences on network
> useage.
> >
> > Commercially its a good bet for orange because you will use up alot more
> data if you teether and they simply make money because thats there bread
> and butter, SO i do not think they simply do not want to allow this feature
> or mode of access as its commercially viable after all they are in .UG for
> a profit, it could be something more political if really its not possible.
> >
> > Keep in mind even if orange is in uganda or other parts of africa all
> decisions and network quality are dictated from Paris(HQ).  So there is
> little room to wiggle just because its the right decision.
> >
> >
> > On Monday, May 14, 2012, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Buy the orange modem! Buy the orange modem and use that 1.2gb! That
> comment
> >> on facebook and 1.2gb just made me cry inside.
> >> But why are orange being so stupid? By the way, isn't it poor security
> to
> >> allow a provider to turn off and on stuff on your phone?
> >> I will get to the bottom of the tethering thing! I am amazed that a
> telco
> >> can turn off stuff on my phone!
> >> I wish you all the best in your search for the more reasonable isp.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of
> >> Sanga Collins
> >> Sent: 14 May 2012 09:57
> >> To: Uganda Linux User Group
> >> Cc: Uganda Linux User Group
> >> Subject: Re: [LUG] iPhone 4s tethering
> >>
> >> The water analogy is a good one. It is also used in the states during
> net
> >> neutrality discussions in congress. ISP and mobile carriers should just
> be
> >> pipes for data. What I do with the data should be up to me. But
> apparently
> >> not all data is equal.
> >>
> >> I believe orange is taking advantage of a feature designed to hide an
> option
> >> for the wrong reason. I totally understand in the states if you don't
> pay
> >> for tether the option is hidden (some people aren't so bright so even I
> can
> >> see hiding it makes sense)
> >>
> >> But I purchased 1.2gb specifically for tethering. I don't know if I can
> surf
> >> enough iPhone Facebook in 2 weeks to recoup that investment.
> >>
> >> I'd prefer not to use my droid 2 global. It's bulky and has poor battery
> >> life for a primary phone. And in the streets of Kampala carrying around
> 2
> >> phones is just asking for someone to set you up for a robbery (only been
> >> home since Friday and already had my side mirrors stolen!!:)
> >>
> >> So unfortunately. It's back to town. I'll just get a regular USB modem
> and
> >> write up the orange investment as a loss. Not a fan of throwing away
> money
> >> but in this case I have painted my self into a corner :/
> >>
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >> On May 14, 2012, at 9:41 AM, "Jake Markhus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No seriously, school me on tethering! I am paying for NWSC (national
> >>> water) to provide water to my compound, you are telling me they can
> >>> tell me what I can do with the water after I get it? And, how the blue
> >>> blazes can a telco "disable" a native app/function on my phone?
> >>> Kindly, allow me benefit from your knowledge. Am not being a fanboy am
> >>> just admitting ignorance and looking for knowledge.
> >>> am not being sarcastic either. I really do use tethering on my android
> >>> and I thought the about water analogy applied!
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >>> Behalf Of Sanga Collins
> >>> Sent: 14 May 2012 09:28
> >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] iPhone 4s tethering
> >>
>
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