Does anyone think if ms came out with office light 2010 For Linux ( the free 
one that comes on all laptops/pcs) that this discussion would would end. 

It seems office is what this coversation always boils down to. Or some 
derivative of that discussion. 

For those who dont know. Office light 2010 comes on all computers sold in the 
states with windows 7  It is an advert supported version of office with word 
and excel. 

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On May 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Okello, I use Linux as my daily environment and have done so for almost 10 
> years now, with Windows installed for when I want to play games. I'm as 
> fanatical about Linux as anyone on this LUG.
> 
> But claiming that Libre Office is interchangeable with Microsoft Office for 
> the *average* user is just plain wrong. Similarly that there are real-world 
> viable alternatives to Adobe's suite of programs for a power user like the 
> one who started this discussion.
> 
> We're now getting side tracked into whether Libre is a "good" suite, which it 
> is (as long as you use open formats, although as long as you use 
> same-language, same-format, then MS Office is also a good suite!). Or whether 
> a user is stupid for keeping proprietary formats, etc.
> 
> My main point is that Libre is NOT a viable alternative to MS Office. And 
> therefore, a great *open source* alternative is to use WINE and its 
> derivative CrossOver Pro.
> 
> Discuss.
> 
> P.
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> On 15 May 2012 23:34, Okello <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 May 2012 14:30:37 Peter C. Ndikuwera wrote:
> 
> > But don't you see that this is the big problem? You want to force users to
> > change how they work to suit how you develop.
> 
> I'm tryin to get results at the least costs.
> 
> > (And isn't MS's XML format
> > published as well? I hesitate to say "open")
> 
> The problem is it's transiency. Microsoft tends to add "features" (and change
> them as well). They do not managed to to make a open standard of it, and that
> tells a lot regarding the power of Microsoft in the business.
> 
> > Are you going to convince the standard idiot user who uses Word that they
> > have to save as ODF? What about the 3000 documents he has on his hard disk
> > that are in Word (and that open in just about every version of Word since
> > Word XP [albeit with the Office 2007 addin]) How many ODF documents do you
> > estimate fly around the web?
> 
> How many Word93 Documents fly around the web? Users are trapped in it, that
> true, and to make odf the standard company format needs a decision from the
> top. Those decision makers can somtimes barely distinguish a pc from a
> washing machine, never learned to calculate the operation costs of a IT
> landscape.
> 
> > Same for Latex.
> 
> Not really, as Latex documets tend to be published as pdf documents on the
> net. There is a notable count of pdf documents on the net. On the other hand,
> even when the LaTeX format is more sustaining then office formats, to use it
> in a commercial environment i would call a "interesting academic study".
> 
> > German => Polish is a bit of a silly example. US English Libre Office can't
> > open US English Word Document.
> 
> Word freezes Windows while opening a word document is not a silly example but
> a very serious problem. To make it more clear: imagine windows freezing while
> u try in Kampala to open a word document sent to u from Mbarara, created with
> the very same release of word, just created using the Runyankole version
> while u try to open it using the Luganda version. That how u have to see
> that. Data exchange over a border in Europe using Microsoft software became
> tricky with Windows95, it eased with the time, but is still not always
> trivial.
> 
> Okello
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