Of course, the overall socio-economic position of Uganda has an impact on the performance of various sections of the market, telecommunications being one of them.
The reason Rwanda is - I think - doing better than Uganda from an ICT perspective (despite being a smaller country) is due to policy, and the willingness of that government of not only enact it, but operationalize and manage it. However, this quickly takes this thread into off-topic territory :-). Mark. On 16/Mar/17 09:02, Joe Willrich Lutalo wrote: > > And while at it, have you also considered the fact that Uganda's > stance in the regional (as well as global) market/econ is so terrible? > Look to the trends and stats around our currency and performance of > the Economy in general, and you'll notice we'd not be crying, had we a > better local currency or bargaining power. > > IMO, therein lies the core of the problem, not just in telecom > products and services, but this pervades all things we pay for, that > rely on foreign exchange. It's a bigger problem than mere IT/tech biz. > > J. > > > On 16-Mar-17 9:55 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: >> The telecommunications landscape in Uganda needs much better policy >> (reform). >> >> In Africa, the more inland you are, the higher your cost of Internet >> access. It is not an excuse, but regulation and policy reform are the >> ways to fix that. I think this is an area that is sorely lacking in >> our country. >> >> Mark. >> >> On 16/Mar/17 07:44, David Okwii wrote: >>> Obel, >>> >>> If it boils down to a game of numbers, Mauritius which is an african >>> state with a GDP of 11.93 billion USD (2013) has a total population >>> of 1.296 million people -- that's the entire country, which isn't >>> even Kampala's population (of 3 million?). >>> >>> Okay monthly tariff of 30 Mbps with Mauritius Telecom (MT), the >>> country’s incumbent broadband operator, is MUR 1,499 (USD 43 ~ Ugx >>> 150,000) which is almost in the same range as Zuku Kenya's 20Mbps >>> unlimited. >>> >>> I know you are about to introduce in another variable -- landlocked >>> vs coastal countries :) >>> >>> @Zulu everyone pays taxes everywhere. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Angello Obel <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> It is likely to do with profits and margins. The gap in wireless >>> data between Uganda and Kenya is significantly smaller. Though >>> Uganda's is still twice as expensive. This is also likely >>> because of the same reason. >>> Nairobi has a lot going for it compared to kampala, Incomes are >>> higher, the population is about twice as large, it has many more >>> planned high density neighbourhoods and residences like >>> apartment buildings. This means larger demand and a lower cost >>> of deploying network infrastructure. Add to that the access to >>> cheaper financing ... >>> Basically the Ugandan telecoms need to have charge more to their >>> fewer customers to remain profitable as compared to kenyans. You >>> don't even have to look outside Uganda to see this effect. >>> Wireless data, with a lot of customers is much cheaper than >>> fibre in Uganda. For instance you can get an unlimited 12mbps >>> fibre connection from tangerine at 1200$ >>> <http://tangerine.co.ug/data-plans/#vas-anchor> for that same >>> price you could get 800GB, of faster LTE data from MTN. Sure >>> 800gb is not unlimited but for many people it practically is. >>> >>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 17:57 Richard Zulu <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> David, >>> >>> How about looking at it from the perspective of the ISP? >>> Have you tried analysing the taxes that come with service >>> provision? My assumption is that there might be some >>> pointers there. >>> >>> >>> --------------- >>> Richard Zulu >>> Lead, Outbox <http://www.outbox.co.ug> >>> Technology entrepreneurship and innovation >>> 4th Floor, Soliz House, Lumumba Avenue, >>> Kampala, Uganda >>> +256392000152 <tel:+256%2039%202000152> >>> www.outbox.co.ug <http://www.outbox.co.ug> >>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/OutboxHub> Twitter >>> <http://www.twitter.com/OutboxHub> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 5:36 PM, David Okwii >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've come to ponder on this question for a while now >>> without very satisfying answers and I would appreciate >>> some pointers from people working with ISP/Govt >>> authorities in the sector. >>> >>> Here's the thing; 20Mbps unlimited by Zuku fibre >>> (http://zuku.co.ke/internet/fiber-packages >>> <http://zuku.co.ke/internet/fiber-packages>) is only >>> 4,499 Ksh (Ugx 157,465). Safaricom Fibre-To-Home has >>> almost similar packages. That amount in comparison only >>> gives you about 15GB on any mobile telecom in Uganda. >>> >>> 1Mbps unlimited link by most telecom in Uganda is about >>> $325 (Ugx 1,200,000). So our neighbors in Kenya are >>> getting 10 times more bandwidth at about 7 times less >>> the amount!!! The gap is too huge to ignore. Please I >>> would like to know why if anyone is in position to >>> answer. Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks & regards, >>> David Okwii, >>> Mobile(default): +256-791-040-262 >>> >>> Christ in me the Hope of Glory(Col.1:27) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails >>> to: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Mailing list archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> >>> Mailing list settings: >>> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> <http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug> >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> <http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug> >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by >>> INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted >>> them (including attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not >>> responsible for them in any way. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks & regards, >>> David Okwii, >>> Mobile(default): +256-791-040-262 >>> >>> Christ in me the Hope of Glory(Col.1:27) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). 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