Hello Baldwin, Thanks very much for the above well articulated writeup. I must say it has answered most of my questions. Though abit deep technically, but it is on point and has been helpful.
On 21 March 2017 at 20:22, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Arthur, > > WARNING: LONG POST - i might via off topic but you can pick out what is > useful to you. By Fixed Line, i will be referring to FTTX and ADSL > (Copper). > > > ********************************************************* > > - *Is the reason for poor fixed line penetration mainly because the > core infrastructure does not exist, or is it that it is hugely expensive, > or both?* > > > > ** > > To complement Marks submission on *FTTX* from a Service Provider ( SP) > perspective, > > From scratch; > > *Last Mile- *Initial investment would include laying Fiber To The > Premise/Building/Curb/Office all the way from the SP Point of Presence, > last mile to customer's premises. Fiber could be over head or underground > and each of these scenarios come with different set of requirements like > over head would require poles or underground would require digging of > trenches, fiber ducts and man holes, Then in comes the local councils and > municipal license fees for digging some times the process is ridiculous. In > short the price of laying fiber per km varies from place to place. i would > throw this an average of UGX 1,500,000 per 500 meters. > > That is from the last mile perspective. They also need to factor in > backhaul capacity, thats an additional cost if non existent or if > additional capacity is required. > > *Equipment:- *Depending on the vendor the pricing of Core FTTX > equipment/node varies, a basic, refurbished/second hand EPON FTTX Optical > Line Terminal (OLT) which just one line card of 8 PONS each supporting 64 > customers would go for about $3600. One will need the splitters, these > start from about $200 up words depending on the ones configuration. Then > the CPE's/ONU, these vary depending on whether its EPON or GPON (more > expensive) and also the port density of the CPE ( a 4 port EPON costs more > than a single port, a 4 Port GPON costs more than a single port GPON.. etc) > I would give a single port EPON ONU about $40 - $90 per unit off Alibaba > but because these ONU/equipment are not not vendor inter-operable, the > price of the ONU will be much higher say $200 or more. > > *Price of Internet (MRC) - *After all is said and done about equipment > etc it all comes down to the monthly recurring cost of internet packages > being sold over FTTX by the SP. would it make business sense for the SP to > sell 128Kpbs, 256kbps or 512Kbps ? In my little experience, FTTX is pushed > to or taken up by higher end clients who can meet the high MRC for > dedicated internet of 1Mbps and above, you are looking at give or take UGX > 900,000 per month. Not a cup of tea withyou bread for many folks/SOHO's. > > *ADSL (Fixed Copper) * > All that i have written above (price of Internet and last miles cables > works) on FTTX applies to *ADSL*, only that ADSL is copper. Secondly > from a Equipment perspective, ADSL is somewhat cheaper. DSLAMS/MSANS nodes > and ADSL Modems are cheaper on average. Since ADSL is copper, its > susceptible to degradation depending on the distance of client from the > DSLAM (the nearer you are the better the performance), the quality of > copper (Copper degrades over time, 10 years or there about is so one might > experience slow speeds when it rains) > > IMHO Fixed Line over copper is on a downward trend because Copper theft is > the order of the day, its somewhat not a worthwhile investment anymore > because of the cable theft. Manholes are broken, copper is cut and stolen > so often and yet pvc copper cables are hardly sold off the shelf ready to > use as it was in the the past. You have to place your order then they will > manufacture and lead time can come to 60-90 days (manufacture and > shipping). its way easier to find a drum of fiber than one of copper in the > local market. > > > Fixed Wireless is easier to install, many SPs are using a free ISM > frequency, No digging trenches/duct, fees to the Municipal Council. > > To sum up the above, The fixed line infrastructure does exist to some > extent but where it does exist, its being cannibalized (especially that on > copper). Fixed Wireless is a suitable alternative solution. The Fixed Line > core equipment is affordable to many service providers but Its more > expensive to install Fixed Line Infrastructure in comparison to Fixed > Wireless especially in virgin areas. > > > > - *What are the current indicative market costs of fixed lines (phone > and internet) in Uganda?* > > > The markets costs vary depending on the internet package one needs. You > can either have a shared broadband fixed line service (Contention based ) > or the dedicated bandwidth. Shared service would be cheaper than the > dedicated because its shared whereas dedicated is dedicated :-) The > initial cost (Setup fees, CPE) for FTTX is relatively prohibitive for the > ordinary person if on average is user is subscribing to 1Mbps dedicated. I > have not come across a shared broadband service (contention based) over > FTTX. Fixed Line over copper is way cheaper that that over FTTX. > > > Baldwin > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Arthur B. Niwagaba <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Fixed wireless links are common in Uganda. I have one, and it's great. >> Who is your provider Kyle? >> >> It's more reliable than overhead fibre and I pay by the bit. >> How are they charging you and how much? >> >> >> >> On 21 March 2017 at 17:28, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Fixed wireless links are common in Uganda. I have one, and it's great. >>> It's more reliable than overhead fibre and I pay by the bit. >>> >>> Most countries in sub-Saharan Africa have similarly low fixed-line >>> penetration numbers, and similarly high mobile penetration numbers. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Arthur B. Niwagaba >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Thanks much for the insight. I though would like to hear from those >>> with >>> > fixed lines from some providers...UTL, Airtel, Africell,MTN etc >>> > >>> > On 21 March 2017 at 16:54, Mark Tinka <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 21/Mar/17 15:34, Arthur B. Niwagaba wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On average, how much can it cost, going by the leading providers of >>> FTTx >>> >> to office or home? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Depends on the market. >>> >> >>> >> On the low-end, it can be US$5/km/customer. On the high-end, it can be >>> >> US$30/km/customer. This is not including the electronics required to >>> power >>> >> the fibre, or even other logistical requirements like way leaves, >>> e.t.c. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Yes i have a mobile phone on 4G service. I am on average paying for >>> UGX >>> >> 35,000 for 1GB, limited bundle. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> So you do have an Internet service :-). It might not be a fixed >>> service to >>> >> your home or office, but it is still an Internet service. >>> >> >>> >> Mark. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Arthur B. 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Niwagaba [Bsc, Msc, CEH, CISA, PRINCE2] >> >> *Infosec and Forensics Consultant Tel: +256701-775370 >> <+256%20701%20775370> / +256773-730818 <+256%20773%20730818>* >> >> *"Electronic Crime must be contained"* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). 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