Does anyone know when this picture was painted?  Not only are the frets
interesting but the fact that the first course is doubled is interesting as
well.  Here is an interesting thought (probably way off the wall)  is it
possible that this is a painting of a very early Lute and not just an Oud?

Vance Wood.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Van Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: fretted ud


> Dear Roman,
>
> Do you mean this picture which I've just copied from your page?:
> http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/Ud.htm
>
> As you see I also have a much bigger version which is among the
> earliest images I collected. Alas in those days I didn't take much
> care over keeping notes on the source. But if that's the image you
> mean, I might be able to search for where I found it. Probably in the
> local university library. Or maybe an early issue of Early Music.
>
> I too would be interested in a translation of the arabic script
> along the strings and as a title to the illustration. As you say it
> is an interesting confirmation of Farmer's thesis that the early 'Ud
> was fretted.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David
>
>
> At 9:15 PM -0500 18/11/03, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> >Today "my eye has caught" a CD by an Azerbajdzhani composer Frangi
Ali-Zade
> >called Crossings. She does not appear to be related to our own
arabe-manquÈ
> >Daniel Franke-Ferengizade.
> >The cover is illustrated with what appears to be a collage with a
clipping
> >of an antique illumination of a FRETTED ud with two rosettes in the form
of
> >the Star of David, situated crosswise the axis of the body, above and
below
> >the strings. There is writing UNDER the strings, apparently in Arabic
> >script.
> >I have found a SMALL jpg picture and inserted it into the text in the
page
> >2, paragraph 4 at
> >http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban
> >Can anyone identify the source of this illumination???
> >RT
> >______________
> >Roman M. Turovsky
> >http://turovsky.org
> >http://polyhymnion.org
>
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