Dear vance and Ed,
 the modern 'ud always has a double string 1st course. Only the 6th course
(when used) is a single bass string used as a drone.
Concerning late renaissance and baroque lute it must be remebered  there is
evidence that, in Italy ,a double 1st course was mostly used,  on archlutes,
theorbos ( when not single strung) baroque guitars and also 11 course liuto
alla francese" tuned in d minor. (see Stradivari) ,while in France , they
had single strings on 1st and 2nd courses. One possible explanation is that
in Italy we had good gut strings also for the chanterelles.
best regards,
davide rebuffa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: fretted ud


> >Hi Ed:
> >
> >It is my understanding that the Ud is fretless and has only a single
first
> >course. I am no authority on the Ud, I am just echoing what I have
learned
> >around here and in some reading.
>
> That's my understanding too, - of today's uds. Daniel Franke has
> mentioned that early uds had frets. At what point in history was
> there any difference between a lute and an ud? Perhaps just different
> names at first and then, obviously, in Europe the lute evolved in
> it's own direction, and I don't know in what way the ud evolved.
>
> >  However contrary to what most Lute
> >players that I know think or believe, in the early history of the Lute
there
> >were as many Lutes with a doubled first course as there were those with a
> >single Chanterelle.
>
> That was my point.
>
> >  According to Lundberg's research Lutes did not start
> >finding themselves with a single first string until conversions starting
> >making 6, 7, and 8 course Lutes into 9, 10, and larger formats.
>
> I didn't know that. Really?
> --
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>



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