Dear vance and Ed, the modern 'ud always has a double string 1st course. Only the 6th course (when used) is a single bass string used as a drone. Concerning late renaissance and baroque lute it must be remebered there is evidence that, in Italy ,a double 1st course was mostly used, on archlutes, theorbos ( when not single strung) baroque guitars and also 11 course liuto alla francese" tuned in d minor. (see Stradivari) ,while in France , they had single strings on 1st and 2nd courses. One possible explanation is that in Italy we had good gut strings also for the chanterelles. best regards, davide rebuffa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: Re: fretted ud
> >Hi Ed: > > > >It is my understanding that the Ud is fretless and has only a single first > >course. I am no authority on the Ud, I am just echoing what I have learned > >around here and in some reading. > > That's my understanding too, - of today's uds. Daniel Franke has > mentioned that early uds had frets. At what point in history was > there any difference between a lute and an ud? Perhaps just different > names at first and then, obviously, in Europe the lute evolved in > it's own direction, and I don't know in what way the ud evolved. > > > However contrary to what most Lute > >players that I know think or believe, in the early history of the Lute there > >were as many Lutes with a doubled first course as there were those with a > >single Chanterelle. > > That was my point. > > > According to Lundberg's research Lutes did not start > >finding themselves with a single first string until conversions starting > >making 6, 7, and 8 course Lutes into 9, 10, and larger formats. > > I didn't know that. Really? > -- > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > >