Hi Michael:

Interesting observation about this conversion.  I trust your judgment and
opinion on this issue as a builder.  However you might want to brace
yourself for an onslaught from one of the members of this list with whom I
had a debate about a year ago over whether or not a seven course Lute could
be converted to a thirteen course Lute.  It was his opinion that it could
not, even though I sited the studies done by Lundberg that asserts that this
was a common practice.  I guess the debate arose after someone new to the
Lute asked whether or not this could be done, I said it could,  he said it
could not.

Vance Wood.
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From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Interesting concerning smaller lutes.  This summer I was in Boston and
drew
> up plans of the Berr lute which has been converted to a 13 course baroque
> lute.   However  it is smaller than the Frei #34.
>   Stephen Barbber says it was converted from an 11 course to a 13 course,
> which shows he devoted no time to seriously studying and analyzing the
Berr,
> which he claims to have done.  It most certainly started it's life as a 7
or
> 8 course lute.  I think it is a welcome addition to the pre Baroque lutes.
> Michael Thames
> Luthier
> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "G.R. Crona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)
>
>
> > >that's why I downloaded Alfonso's collection, although it took ages on
my
> > >old messerschmidt PC. (It's an old Siemens =])
> >
> > But at least those Messerschmidt PCs are nice and compact. :-)
> >
> > >What a good idea and fine collection Alfonso! Together with the
pictures
> > >McFeely's posted, it's excellent reference.
> >
> > Speaking of which, I couldn't figure out how to download McFeely's
> > pictures in one swoop. Everything else is in PDF.
> >
> > >I thought I had a theory about all those impossible stretches you
> sometimes
> > >encounter in the 1500's repertoire, that perhaps those old masters
played
> on
> > >"small lutes", what we today would call A-lutes, and that is why we
have
> > >such difficulties with doing justice to their music on today's 60 cm. +
> > >lutes?
> > >
> > >PS. Wish I had a teeny-weeny 6 or 7 course A-lute! Anyone who has
> > >experienced one?
> >
> > I'm so glad you mentioned this. I just bought a WONDERFUL John
> > Rollins alto lute with a string length of 51cm. That was precisely
> > the thought that went through my mind as I read through stuff. It all
> > made sense! Of course the pics, as far as I know in my shallow
> > browsing, don't support the widespread use. In fact, sometimes they
> > often have huge lutes, but there is a lot that doesn't make sense in
> > the lute world and iconography. I hope others will chime in on this
> > thread.
> > cheers,
> > --
> > Ed Durbrow
> > Saitama, Japan
> > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
> >
> >
>
>
>


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