Dear Tom,

I think you are being a little unfair. I have just counted 567
messages from Arto in my own computer archives, which I have saved
since subscribing to this list. He has made many valuable
contributions over the years, which I for one appreciate. It is
unfortunate that he chose to bring politics into a forum where
politics have no place. However, it is also unfortunate that he has
decided to leave us. Somehow I feel he is cutting off his nose to
spite his face, but I hope his absence will be short-lived, and we
can all get back to discussing the lute, with Arto's input too.

Best wishes,

Stewart McCoy.

PS Message for Arto, if he is still logging on to the Dartmouth
site:

Please stay with us. Please keep writing in about lutes and lute
music, as you have so often done in the past. Tell us about your
music-making in Finland. Tell us about your website, where we can
read about who the Lutenetters of this list are. Tell us again about
Father Christmas, who comes from your neck of the woods, and who
brings happiness to children all over the world. That's all fun,
and involves positive things we can all share. Politics is a
wretched business. It's divisive. Let's leave that to the
politicians and the newspapers.

The lute has its origins in the Middle East. Some musicians there
play the ud, while some of us in the West play the lute. We share a
common heritage. Let's build on positive things like that, and
eschew anything which might divide us.



----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Goodbye


> Arto,
>
> Your reasons for leaving this community are as thoroughly immoral
as those
> you claim are driving you away. One assumes that the treatment of
the Iraqi
> prisoners to which you object results from them simply being
Iraqis, guilt by
> association. You are seriously telling us that you no longer wish
to be part of
> our lute community simply because many of us are American and
British, likewise
> guilt by association. This is a typical example of stereotyping,
as carried
> out by the Nazis, Communists, and indeed  the fanatics who were
responsible for
> the WTC attack and many other acts of barbarity.
>
> By assuming that you know how we feel about the goings-on in Iraq
you pretend
> to a knowledge you do not have. And even worse, you either infer
that we all
> agree with such things, or simply find that being in the company
of  Americans
> and British people is beneath the dignity of a man from a
continent which
> produced Auschwitz, the Gulags, the Inquisition, and countless
other horrors in
> its history.
>
> Your 'protest' is not only meaningless, but the act of a person in
some ways
> even worse than those soldiers you disapprove of. If education,
music, the
> arts and sciences have any value over and above themselves, then
it surely ought
> to include the ability to think clearly and refrain from primitive
and
> insulting insinuations, let alone condemning two entire nations
for the deeds of a
> few of their citizens. What you have done with your empty gesture
is thus the
> ultimate betrayal, the first in a series of steps that led to
Auschwitz and the
> denial of humanity for the sake of arcane and misconceived
beliefs.
>
> TB



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