Oops, I'm wrong. The pagination in the lower right corner is often 
lower case roman numerals. Probably seen it a thousand times, too. 
Still I'm torn between Arto's "iterate item" and Arthur's explanation 
below.

Or does Stewart's explanation create a hybrid of both; eg: iij = 
iterate iterate item = repeat twice?

Sean




On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Arthur Ness wrote:

> It's simply the way Roman numerals were written back
> then.  It's used very frequentky in chant books, even
> today. ij = 2, iij = 3, xviij = 18.
>
> So "<music phrase> ij" means sing "<music phrase> <music
> phrase>."  iij (often indicated in Kyries) means sing
> the Kyrie for a total of three times.
>
> I hadn't heard the one about "ij" you give in your PS,
> Arto.  But
> "E u o u a e" has produced a few howlers (literally<g>).
>
> That reminds me, what novel has a horse named "Old
> Doxology"?
> ============================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arto Wikla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:19 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance ditto/ij/" --was
> Fuenllana Tan que vivray
>
>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Sean Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any plausible latin phrases based on "ij"?
>>
>> As far as I know, it means "iterate item"; letters i
>> and j were quite
>> the same in printing in those days.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Arto
>>
>> PS Once upon a time one singer was singing a baroque
>> song telling
>> about crusifixation of Jesus. And he interpreted the
>> "ij" being a
>> sound that came from J. while being tortured on the
>> cross. And he sang
>> those letters! And this is not an urban legend, I
>> heard it...  ;)
>>
>>
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