Dear All,

I have followed this thread with interest.  It was good to see NN 
playing on utube, where many people who are not lute specialists will 
see and hear it.  The playing is (as usual with NN) marvellous, and I 
want it to be understood that the following comments are not intended to 
be a criticism of his playing:

1. He moves his right hand a lot, but if you look closely you will see 
that it is nearly always not associated with playing different notes in 
different places.  Typically, he plays a note, moves his hand towards 
the neck, moves it back again, and plays another note in the same place 
as the first!  I have seen him do this so many times, I can only 
conclude that it is just a habit, perhaps a reassurance of relaxation, I 
don't know.  He certainly seems relaxed and in control.

2. Bruno talks about bending the last joint.  I know different people do 
things differently, but I have always been told (and it seems to work) 
that the last joint should not be part of the plucking action.  In fact 
the normal state for this joint would be one of relaxation, only 
introducing a little tension for special effect.  Whether all this 
changes with "thumb out" I don't know, but to me it seems even more 
important in this technique because the fingers are already in danger of 
hooking up the string from underneath.

3. So few people in modern times seem to have had any success with 
"thumb out" yet Nigel seems to have cracked it.  I am really interested 
in how it works.  I think it is fair to say, though, that his hand 
position is not as extreme as that shown in most 17th C paintings, 
either in terms of how far the thumb is ahead of the fingers or in terms 
of how close the plucking point is to the bridge.

4. One of the problems I have had when trying to play thumb-out is 
tension - because it's an unfamiliar hand position - yet it seems the 
solution is to relax as much as possible.  I suppose after twenty years 
or so (in Nigel's case) it begins to seem normal...

Best wishes,

Martin




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