David, what I meant by bending of the last joint is exactly what you said.
The finger does not remain bended but rather in a flexible state when in
touch with the strings. In classical guitar it is maintained straight when
plucking, however, I've seen people bending it ocasionally.


2007/7/17, David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I think it is interesting that when we actually hear someone playing
> historically,  we wonder if it is.
> As for bending the last joint of the finger, that is a tricky
> question. If you grab and bend the last joint,
> you often will make a scratchy sound; if the joint is flexible and
> bends slightly backwards, yielding to the thread of pressure from the
> finger, wrist, and arm, you can strike both strings with no fear of
> the dreaded buzz.
> That said, there are many ways to strike a string, or groups of strings.
> Lotta reverb on that video :) beautiful playing.
>
> dt
>
>
> At 09:26 AM 7/16/2007, you wrote:
> >The question of nails just arose because I felt the sound was extremely
> >focused, almost as if he was playing on a single string with nails. Also,
> if
> >you notice his right hand, the fingers are been used as in classical
> guitar
> >technique where you don't bend the last joint. That's how I started out
> >playing, but soon as I cut the nails I had to bend the last joint to be
> able
> >to grab both strings together.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2007/7/16, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:02 AM, Andrew Gibbs wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not that I'm in any position to be questioning Nigel North's
> > > > technique but shouldn't these pieces be played thumb-under, little
> > > > finger on the soundboard and with the right hand closer to the
> bridge?
> > >
> > > The little finger can still anchor the RH even though the hand
> > > changes position, horizontally or vertically.
> > >
> > > Conventional wisdom seems to have it that thumb-out is okay for
> > > Dowland because he was most probably playing thumb-out towards the
> > > end of the 16th century.
> > >
> > > I noticed on those clips that NN's right hand thumb does slip behind
> > > his fingers occasionally.  He seems to be playing with that kind of
> > > hybrid technique that more or less leaves the fingers more or less
> > > where they are for either thumb-out or thumb-under.  That method
> > > doesn't require much change in RH position to bring the thumb over
> > > the fingers instead of behind them.  In fact, as long as the thumb is
> > > busy playing bass notes the question of thumb under/out doesn't arise.
> > >
> > > We seem to have two different sets of iconography:  artists'
> > > impressions in old paintings and modern-day photographic, as well as
> > > actual visual, evidence.  Past and present iconographies don't always
> > > show the same thumb-out position.  Most lutenists I've seen in live
> > > performance, in video's, in photo's accompanying CD notes or on
> > > personal websites, play Baroque music with this hybrid technique, and
> > > not in the more severe style depicted in the old paintings.
> > >
> > > Apparently thumb-under is not recommended for playing Baroque music,
> > > but possibly might be acceptable if said Baroque music is played on a
> > > renaissance lute.  So is the Earl of Derby's Galliard renaissance or
> > > Baroque?  I dunno, it's very confusing.  Does it really matter that
> > > much...  ;-)
> > >
> > > DR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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