Hello Howard-
At this point I would take it to a luthier rather than fix it myself 
for two reasons:

1. It's now an old injury- a fresh, new break would provide clean 
wood surfaces to work with; and now having to deal with old glue in 
addition to the age factor presents a double contamination issue, 
compounded by uncertainty of its nature- "probably" hide glue doesn't 
sound certain enough to me; although that would be the kind of glue 
that could give way under damp/humid/hot conditions. I would use a 
non-reversible cyanoacrylate (crazy) or high-strength epoxy, or at 
least one of the Tite bond glues IF it was a different situation. (I 
glued the entire pegbox onto the neck of my 13 course Baroque lute 
that I got from Robert Lundberg back in the 1970's with Titebond II- 
it has held like a rock for over 30 years)

2. Since it didn't break at a joint, there is also a possible wood 
integrity issue inherent in the original rider itself- with a good 
re-gluing, the wood right next to the old break could also fracture 
from the same tensions that caused the first break. I would want a 
professional to asses that aspect of the situation.

Since we can't post pictures directly on the list, could you put pics 
on a Photobucket or some other accessible internet page? A look at 
the thing would certainly help. Meanwhile, I hope you can get that 
thing looked at- best of luck with it.

Dan

>As long as the subject has come up, the bass rider on my 13-course
>broke off some time ago.  It looks as if it didn't come apart at a
>glue joint; the wood itself seems to have split.  The break was
>repaired once before, probably with hide glue, but it didn't hold.
>I'm finally getting tired of having an 11-course lute instead of a 13-
>course and would like to permanently reattach the rider.   Is strong
>cyanacrylate a good option, or should I just take it to a professional?
>
>On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:20 AM, David Tayler wrote:
>
>  > Slowwww set crazy glue--Jet brand.

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