It isn't complicated, there is no known tempo for purely instrumental galliards. Have fun! dt
At 10:38 PM 7/11/2009, you wrote: > Thanks for this lively and intersting discussion. i wonder if there are > no books or articles that describe he needed resarch here in a readable > and reasonable way thus one can draw one's conclusions. obviously, the > issue is complicated - as always... but one should certainly deal with > it not simply play around... a quick search in the net, not particular > scientific of course taught me that the galliard seems to have been one > of the best loved court dances in renaissance, both in italy and > england, indeed it is said to have been the favorite dance of elisabeth > I. (by the way, please apologize the minuscules - it's due to computer > trouble). from renaissance to baroque more an more virtuoso variations > were introduced, and one had to be very learned and fit to perform > them. how quick was it? as it seems, it was quite quick, however not so > quick that the steps were blurred! indeed on source said that it was > slower than another quick dance, with a "strong beat" that was slow > enough to allow high jumps to be performed properly and perform th > virtuoso gestures thereby - obviously there was a limit of reasonable > velocity, and indeed a warning not to haste. Actually Galliards for > dancing were often included singing which should limit velocity as > well. But are there sources from which o really can derive the rhyhm? a > vienna valse is clearly 3/4, but without knowing the dance one would > not know how it really sounds... > > Is there a good book? or good articles to suggest? some internet > sources demonstrate renaissance dances, but how authentically? mayb one > should pursue the stuff a little - but i am asking myself if not > professional study of lue or guitar includes a solid knowledge of > renaissance and baroque dances and their musical stylizations as far as > this this is possible??? > > it is obviously an important issue as many of the pieces for lute are > dance pieces. > > franz > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: [email protected] on behalf of [email protected] > Sent: Sun 12.07.2009 01:43 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [LUTE] Re: The Galliard > > Thanks, Chris and Howard - I like your answers. I must admit that > my > curiosity will not be sufficient to motivate me to learn the dance ( > I > attended dancing classes in elementary school, and haven't liked > dancing since! ) but your reasons for the dance possibly becoming a > bit > slower are both interesting. Listening to a couple of different > performers play Galliards, I have the feeling that they find the > fastest tempo at which they can cleanly perform them and let that be > the tempo. Ok, I guess, but I still wonder how historically > representative. It does occur to me that - in the case of the Earl > of > Essex Galliard - since it's an instrumental setting of the song > Can She Excuse My Wrongs, would it be appropriate to play/sing each > at > about the same tempo? > Of course, jumping ahead a few hundred years and listening to > Toscannini and then Furtwangler performing Beethoven, one can see > that > tempos are always going to be relative things. Even in spite > of composers' score notations. > Thanks for your responses. I'll just keep advancing the metronome > until my fingers refuse to follow. . . > Ned > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for love this summer? [1]Find it now on AOL Personals. > -- > References > 1. [1]http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003 > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > >References > > 1. http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003 > 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
