Greetings to all.

   Perhaps what counts is not really the amount of wood taken off the top
   when carving the rosette, but rather the wood that is left. A very
   intrincate lace with small voids will have more wood than a less
   intrincate one with larger voids, and this will affect the overal
   weight of the top. So it would be indeed a matter of top weight, and
   not of the amount of air moving in and out of the instrument. In my
   humble opinion, ancient luthiers did not pay that much attention to
   this issue. They were, more likely than not, more interested in the
   beauty of the instrument when they carved their rosettes. In fact, one
   particular luthier would use many different lace patterns, more or less
   intrincate, maybe thinking more about the selling price and less about
   the tone.

   Thus, it would only be a matter of selecting a lace pattern that is
   appealing, and just carving it onto the top. Or even, doing like many
   modern Arab luthiers, who craft their ouds without any lace.

   Best regards to all,

   S. Ramos Collado
   --- El mar 17-nov-09, [email protected]
   <[email protected]> escribio:

     De: [email protected] <[email protected]>
     Asunto: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: rose opening
     A: "julien stryjak luthier" <[email protected]>
     Cc: [email protected]
     Fecha: martes, 17 noviembre, 2009, 12:29 pm

   >    Is there an easy and simple method to measure or calculate this
   >    surface? (I'm not talking about some hard computer program or
   complex
   >    mathematical formula ...we're lute makers after all ...)
   you might try placing the soundboard on a sheet of graph paper,
   photograph
   it and count the revealed squares.  Might help if half the squares were
   colored like a checkerboard.
   Pretty sure yuo wont get a good trace working thru the lace pattern
   with a
   pencil point as the suondboard is thick compared to the width of the
   openings.  Might get a decent rub on graph paper which could then be
   square counted to give an estimate.
   While photoshop has a reputation for being hard, the features I was
   mentioning are not particularly difficult.  I suspect photoshop
   elements
   would suffice, tho I used this technique long before it existed.
   --
   Dana Emery
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