which reminds me on my feelings towards Beethoven's piano sonatas. I
   couldn't stand them any more ... but then I've heard a concert when
   they were played on a Hammerklavier - so delicate! I loved it ...

   The same to Chopin on an old piano instead of the modern Steinways it's
   usually played.

   It's like a new world - and I like it.

   I'm not sure BTW that the old composers would have enjoyed modern
   instruments. They have had different listening habits and the modern
   instruments would have felt like visiting a Heavy Metal concert when
   used to lute music.

   Thomas

   Am Dienstag, 12. Juli 2011, 17.09:12 schrieb Martyn Hodgson:

   > Indeed David, and precisely the point I made which launched this
   round

   > of mails. Once we move away from considerations of historical
   evidence

   > we quickly get into the realms of mere personal assertion to fit an

   > individual's own preferences which may, or may not, be related to
   what

   > the Old Ones expected.

   >

   > The idea that, to take one composer at random, JS Bach would have

   > preferred a modern Bechstein grand is, of course, not new and this
   sort

   > of case was used from the earliest days of the revival of interest in

   > his music in the mid 19th century. Whether or not he would have done
   is

   > something we'll never know - what we do know reasonably well are the

   > sorts of keyboard instruments he would actually have come across.

   >

   > Martyn

   > --- On Tue, 12/7/11, David van Ooijen <[email protected]>
   wrote:

   >

   > From: David van Ooijen <[email protected]>

   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

   > To: [email protected]

   > Date: Tuesday, 12 July, 2011, 15:13

   >

   > On 12 July 2011 04:15, <[1][email protected]> wrote:

   > > I think that, if the old masters had possessed effects, they would

   >

   > have used them.

   > .. and would have written different music which would have utilised

   > these effects. Which is the whole point about HIP: using the means
   the

   > old had at their disposal to create a sound that could have been in

   > their ears when they wre writing their music.

   > David

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