And as for the lute players, Joachim Held taught that quite impressively in Bremen last year on the DLG meeting.
Best regards

Stephan

Am 28.03.2012, 19:06 Uhr, schrieb Braig, Eugene <[email protected]>:

Indeed. This is accentuated with modern rest stroke, but even with free stroke, modern players strive to drive the stroke vertically towards the soundboard...that Piccinini (and I suspect many other astute pluckers) had already figured out around four centuries ago.

Best,
Eugene

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miles Dempster
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:37 AM
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini

Modern classical guitar technique also aims to have the string vibrate vertical to the soundboard.
I'll leave it to the pedagogues to explain how!

Miles
On 2012-03-28, at 9:05 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:

Howard,

Thanks for your very informed remark. Indeed, Piccinini writes in his
avertimenti about the thumb, ch. vi: "Io non approvo, che habbia
l'vnga molto longa" (I don't endorse it to have a very long nail).
And about the other fingers, ch. vii: "Certamente debbono havere le
vngue tanto longhe che auanzino le carne e non piu" (they surely need
to have nails as long as to pass the flesh, and not further).

About his distinct playing technique, ch. vii: "Quando si fara una
pizzicata
(.) si piglierà la detta corda con la sommità della carne & vrtandola
verso il fondo, si farà che l'vngna lasci sfuggire tutte due le corde".
(Striking a string, one must grip the said string with the tip of the
flesh and, bouncing it toward the soundboard, the nail will let escape
both strings).

That is a bit different, if I'm not mistaken, from modern guitar nail
playing technique in that the direction of the vibration of the string
is different. Vertical to the soundboard with Piccinini, parallel to
the soundboard on the modern classical guitar. That makes a difference
in sound, nails or not. But frankly, I haven't seen or heard players
with Piccinini's technique so far. Any hints appreciated.

Mathias



On Mar 27, 2012, at 3:40 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:

What I was referring to is the position of her right hand close to
the bridge, her playing with nails, and the initial movements of her
index and middle fingers from the root joints. That's how I was
taught to play the classical guitar.

Piccinini's 1623 foreword specifically instructs players to use
nails.  Of
course, he
may have been influenced by modern classical guitar technique.




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