Isn't "happy existentialist" an oxymoron? Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Andrico" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tuning
Thanks, Arto. I'm glad to know there are other happy existentialists out there, riffing on the absurdity of it all. Ron > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 22:35:41 +0300 > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tuning > > > Ron, I love your comment on this subject! :-) > > Arto > > On 25/06/12 16:13, Ron Andrico wrote: > > I have to say, I'm always amused by these discussions that broadly > > outline the imprint of theoretical measurements on the phenomenon of > > sound. If we look at all the factors, including thickness and > > stiffness of string material, variability in trueness of dimension, > > interference of temperature and humidity (and probably barometric > > pressure) on the transmission of sound, proximate acoustical > > deflections, damping caused by skin oils, distortion caused by finger > > pressure, variability caused by thickness of fret material, wave > > interference from nut, bridge, soundboard materials, etc. Then there > > is the phenomenon that different ears hear the pitch differently. Where > > do we stop? I say train your ears and tune to the best of your ability. > > RA > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:24:40 +0100 > > > To: [email protected] > > > From: [email protected] > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tuning > > > > > > with apologies to those who aren't interested ;-) > > > > > > For a plucked instrument the finger on the node is removed from the > > string just after the pluck. (otherwise the sound is damped) > > > > > > Indeed, having sharp harmonics is a property of all strings outside > > the physics lesson, as any piano tuner knows. > > > > > > Also, if you use an oscilloscope to view the waveform, and hit the > > harmonic partially so that some of the fundamental also sounds, you can > > see the waveform of the harmonic moving against that of the > > fundamental. > > > > > > For a bowed instrument, I suspect the harmonics are in tune as long > > as the bow is driving the string. > > > > > > andy > > > > > > Philip Brown wrote: > > > > That may be true, but a more obvious cause would be that the total > > > > length of vibrating string is reduced by the width of the area of > > > > contact of the finger. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Philip Brown > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM,<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> They would be for a perfectly thin flexible string - but string > > stiffness sharpens the higher harmonics. > > > >> Bill > > > > > > >> On 25 June 2012 09:39, andy butler<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> Harmonics on a plucked string are a little bit sharp, > > > >> Isn't it the case that harmonics are pure by definition? > > > >> > > > >> David > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > > > > -- ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5104 - Release Date: 07/01/12
