So we have some uncategorizable instruments.
The ultimate point is that Meucci makes a lot more sense than the rest
of them/us.
RT
On 10/18/2012 3:40 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Dear Stuart,
I'd argue that many of these are 'lutes', such as mandores, some
gitterns, theorbos, chitarroni, archlutes, mandoras/gallichons,
colasciones, mandolins/mandolas, etc. In short, instruments developed
directly from the same general platonic 'lute' form.
The big difference, and obvious to all, is between the waisted guitar
family and the lute family. And so we come full circle.....
Martyn
--- On Wed, 17/10/12, WALSH STUART <[email protected]> wrote:
From: WALSH STUART <[email protected]>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone
To: "Monica Hall" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Lutelist" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 17 October, 2012, 21:38
mandolins in many different forms, mandores, gitterns, some English
guitars, mandora/gallichons, colascione, some 18th century French
cistres, (further afield: things like Ukrainian torban, lute shaped
hurdy-gurdies)
Stuart
On 17 October 2012 21:05, Monica Hall <[1][1][email protected]>
wrote:
Such as ? .............
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: [2]WALSH STUART
To: [3]Monica Hall
Cc: [4]Lutelist
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone
Other instruments than lutes have 'lute-shaped' bodies...
Stuart
On 17 October 2012 20:29, Monica Hall <[5][2][email protected]>
wrote:
Well - what is the difference between a lute and a
gittern/mandore.
When is a lute not a lute? Chitarrone as I understand it is a
large member of the lute family i.e. it has a lute shaped
body. It
depends what you mean by separate traditions.......
Monica...getting more confused by the minute.
Diego, unfortunately I cannot read Italian. Are you in agreement
with
Meucci?
Monica, the only things I know about Meucci's article are from
you. As
I understand it, Meucci isn't saying that the chitarrone is a
large
lute. The lute has its own, separate, traditions. The
chitarrone
(he
is saying, I think) is a large (massive!) gittern (or
gittern/mandore).
Stuart
On 17 October 2012 18:34, Diego Cantalupi
<[1][6][3][email protected]>
wrote:
If you can read Italian, you can find my dissertation about
Chitarrone here:
[2][7][4]http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf
The first chapter is about ethimology.
Diego
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