In English lute music the 2 common places where I think many players
   would have added their own contributions are ornaments - there are lots
   of examples of the same music with, and without ornaments. There are
   also many, many pieces that have the usual 3 sections and no divisions
   for the repeat.
   Lately I have been really enjoying the Dowland settings from the Cosens
   Ms. - all readily available on Sarge Gerbode's web site (both facsimile
   & in Fronimo).
   [1]www.gerbode.net
   They are so different from the Folger Dowland versions that we hear all
   the time. I especially like Cosen's Frog Galliard.
   Nancy

         Of course the original sources are fine, I sort of have a
     question
        about whether they are like those half-baked loaves of bread in
     the
        store that you heat up at home--whether some of the details were
     left
        out so you could provide them at the time of playing, or whether
     there
        were, as I suspect, conventions or rules for filling in the
     details
        that people knew and did not have to write down. Otherwise it is
     sort
        of a "raw toast" scenario.
        When Lumsden made his editions, he basically "corrected" some of
     the
        pieces, sometimes in a very clever way, but sometimes so that
     they lost
        their character. And for me that is what I would like to avoid,
     so I go
        for versions that have their own character.
        dt
        --- On Tue, 11/13/12, Dan Winheld <[email protected]> wrote:
          From: Dan Winheld <[email protected]>
          Subject: Re: [LUTE] Reconstructing Dowland; deconstructing
     Dowland
          To: "David Tayler" <[email protected]>
          Cc: "lute" <[email protected]>
          Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 2:22 PM
        Thank you Professor Tayler!
        Excellent points, exquisite playing, and -from what I can hear on
     my
        wretched computer- a correct & satisfying tenor line. That would
     have
        been a bit slow tempo for me some years ago, but as I age it's
     becoming
        pleasant to take more time with things. And enjoy the work of
     others
        who do.
        In my own career as a lazy consumer of lute food, I just plays
     'em as I
        finds 'em. If one version doesn't smell right for one reason or
        another, I search until I find one that does. And a few times, I
     have
        also bit the bullet and corrected inner voices- to the best of my
        relatively limited, less-educated ability. Many, many of the
     solos
        exist as lute songs- and of course the "Lachrimae, or Seaven
     Teares..."
        consort edition- and these sources can provide some guidance for
        improving the helter-skelter lute solos. And mentally slapping my
     own
        wrist as I try to monitor my impulse to dribble out some crass
        ornamentation at times. (Tourette's Syndrome on the lute can get
     ugly
        if not kept in check.)
        One of these days you should do another local luter's workshop-
     this
        time on the Dowland solos, (and maybe a couple of Danyel,
     Rossiter, &
        Holborne tunes as well). I'll supply the single malt, maybe even
     the
        premises, if that helps...
        Dan
        On 11/13/2012 12:33 PM, David Tayler wrote:
        >      Most of Dowland's lute solos come down to use a
     sketch--two
        outside
        >     lines, a few chords, and some "noodly
     appendages"--ornaments
        added by
        >     lutebook owners or their copyists.
        >     Many conclusions can be drawn, but the basic question
     remains,
        what to
        >     do with all of these sources? Obviously, performing them
     "as is"
        is one
        >     solution, and perfectly fine--a snapshot in time of what a
     lute
        player
        >     of the time would have played. Absoutely OK, and there it
     is, in
        the
        >     ms. But suppose there is more?
        >     The other path is to add inner voices and strip out the
     noodly
        >     appendages. I've given this quite a bit of thought over the
     last
        >     twenty-five years, and I have a few simple guidelines.
        >     1. Eliminate parallel fifths and octaves. Dowland never
     wrote bad
        >     counterpoint, so these have to go. Famous example is the
     version
        of
        >     Lachrimae with the parallel fifth in the opening phrase,
     even
        though
        >     Dowland's published version is different.
        >     2. Strip out "orbiting" noodly appendages. One sure sign of
        cookbook,
        >     color-by-number ornaments are those that present a set of
     added
        melodic
        >     sequences that start and end on the same note. Accomplished
        composers
        >     rarely use these, they are intended mainly for students. By
        returning
        >     to the same note, you mostly avoid the problem of parallel
        octaves and
        >     fifths, thus, an amateur who could not read music and did
     not
        study
        >     counterpoint could provide "correct" counterpoint in simple
        ornaments.
        >     Ornamentation treatises mention this trick as a way to dive
     in to
        >     ornamentation: nothing wrong with it, but it is for
        beginners--not
        >     Dowland.
        >     3. Make sure cadences have leading tones somewhere in the
     bar,
        and end
        >     chords with thirds in the harmony. Although you see open
     fifths
        in mid
        >     century lute works, by 1590 you mainly see full harmony. A
        skilled
        >     player would not play G Major with a third and C "Major"
     without
        the
        >     third just to avoid fifth position, and you see this in the
     ms
        sources.
        >     Whether these open chords were simply sketches, or
     intentionally
        left
        >     to the play to fill in, foreshadowing later works such as
     Visee,
        these
        >     need leading tones.
        >     4. Inner parts. Dowland's works at an absolute minimum
     always
        support a
        >     tenor or alto part, or both. If they are missing, they need
     to be
        >     supplied. There are a myriad of examples in the lute solos
     and
        lute
        >     songs, and they follow simple rules of counterpoint. If you
     study
        the
        >     chromatic fantasies, you can see complex inversions and
        imitation, but
        >     ta simple, well-written line will do. After analyzing all
     of the
        works,
        >     I can see that they were composed with inner parts in
     mind--that
        is,
        >     there are no works that paint contrapuntal corners where
     inner
        parts
        >     are not possible, which you see in other composers.
        >     Following these rules, I have created a very simple
     example. In
        one
        >     place I changed the harmony to make sure the form was
     "rounded,"
        that
        >     is, a sort of mini refrain but the rest is pretty
        straightforward.
        >     [1]http://youtu.be/Pr7jtlXk-OU?hd=1
        >     I'm interested in new ideas going forward, before I tackle
     some
        of the
        >     more complex works. Please feel free to make suggestions.
        >     dt
        >
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