On 20/01/2013 22:21, Arthur Ness wrote:
Monica surely has simply forgotten about these Italian guitar pieces.
Just four pieces in a century is virtually the same as saying there are
no pieces.<g>:
See [1]http://purl.org/rism/BI/1549/39 Sigs, Gg24v-Hh1v (last two
pages)
HMB is mistaken when he cites Barberiis's print having four fantasias
for
seven-course guitar. It is seven strings arranged in four courses.
The
fantasias are of rather light specific gravity, and the title fantasia
may refer to
their being in the style of improvisations. One is built over the
Bergamasca formula and
another has a drone.
I really hope the Lute Society (hint, hint, Chris) will commission
Monica to translate:
Renato Meucci, Da ‘chitarra italiana’ a ‘chitarrone’: una nuova
interpretazione; in Enrico Radesca da Foggia e il suo tempo Atti del
Convegno di studi, Foggia 7-8 Aprile 2000, pp. 30 – 57.
There is a case to be made that this music by Bareriis isn't for
figure-of-eight 'normal'-if-tiny 'Spanish guitar but for a small
gittern/mandore-type instrument.
Stuart
"Liber Decimo" refers to Book X in Scotto's
series of
lute books (Barberiis published 5 books, not 10; the other 5 are by
Francesco & Borrono, Rotta, da Crema).
The lute pieces include varied versions of Francesco ricercars. One
curious
piece titled "Pas de mon bon compagni" is "Passe tyme with goode
companye,"
often attributed Henry VIII. (HMB missed it, too<sigh>; how did it get
to Italy???)
Of course the tune is not original, but the widely disseminated "De mon
triste" by Richafort and intabulated by Francesco and used in a parody
ricercar by Francesco and in a parody of Francesco's ricercar by his
student Perino Fiorentino (both publ. in the HUP edition.) The tune
served many purposes, including a Lutheran chorale harmonized by Bach,
and Charlotte found it in a hymnal in the native American Huron
language. There may be some 30 pieces which use the tune.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Hall" <[2][email protected]>
To: "Sean Smith" <[3][email protected]>
Cc: "Lutelist" <[4][email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:22 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de Strombotti
> Yes - there is no Italian repertoire for the renaissance guitar at
all
> really. It would be nice to have one - so keep building.
>
> Another interesting thing is that as far as I have been able to
discover
> there are no other calatas except Dalza's in the 16th century - does
> anyone
> know of any? - but
> the calata re-surfaces in some early 17th century Italian guitar
> books - notably
> those of Montesardo and Costanzo.
>
> Monica
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Smith" <[5][email protected]>
> To: "lute" <[6][email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:08 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de Strombotti
>
>
>>
>> Thanks, Monica. You've saved me search through HMB at any rate.
>>
>> I suspect it's one of the strombotti/ frottole somewhere in the
>> Tromboncino intabulations as are Poi che'l ciel and Poi che volse
but he
>> doesn't do us the favor of naming it. It's certainly set up like a
>> frottole w/ its two sections and light approach.
>>
>> While there are just _so_ many it is fun to search through them.
Btw,
>> I've been setting some for lute and/or ren. guitar and they can fit
very
>> nicely. It's a shame we don't have any extant guitar repertory from
the
>> time so I've been trying to build one.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Monica Hall wrote:
>>
>> Well - Brown doesn't seem to say anything about it but my Harvard
>> Dictionary of Music describes the Strambotto thus-
>>
>> A verse form popular among Italian improvisers in the 15th century
and
>> taken over into the repertory of the frottola. It consists of a
single
>> stanza of eight hendecasyllabic lines etc.........Musical settings
often
>> have only two phrases each repeated four times in alternation....a
>> separate phrase for the final couplet may be included...
>>
>> Perhaps Dalza's Calata is in the form of a strambotto...The Calata
is an
>> early 16th century dance form.
>>
>> Hope that information is of some use.
>>
>> Monica
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smith"
<[7][email protected]>
>> To: "lute" <[8][email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:13 PM
>> Subject: [LUTE] Calata de Strombotti
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks,
>>>
>>> In Dalza on 44v there's a Calata de strombotti. Could anyone tell
me
>>> which strombotti this is? I'm afraid I don't have HMBrown's
Instrumental
>>> Music before 1600 which would probably tell me.
>>>
>>> My appreciation in advance,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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