I guess kitsch was invented earlier than generally thought....
RT
On 6/21/2013 4:02 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
Dear David and Martin,
thank you! Apparently there's a lot to think about...
Two months ago in Venice I had the chance to meet an "indorador"
(gilder) who still works using traditional Venitian techniques: his
(small and beautiful) shop belongs to his family since at least three
generations and is full of fantastic pieces. Wondering whether one of
my lutes should get a "golden rose" :-)
Greetings,
Luca
Martin Hurttig on 20/06/13 22:23 wrote:
Dear Luca and David,
I have this tow to add:
-Burgholtzer/Erdlinger in KHM Wien
-Hans Frei 1597 in Bologna
greetings
martin
Am 20.06.2013 21:13, schrieb David Van Edwards:
Dear Luca,
Yes there are 8 surviving lutes that I know of with gilded roses.
1. The 16th century lute by Wolfgang Wolf currently in Fuessen
Museum has a gilded rose. Impossible to say if it is original as it
has certainly been roughly gilded since then.
2.Lute by Jakob Langenwalder [Fuessen 1627] in Kremsmuenster,
Benediktinerstift
3.Lute by Georg Greiff [Fuessen 1590] in Darmstadt, Hessisches
Landesmuseum Kg 67: 103 (Orig M.I. 29)
4. Miniature lute by Magno Dieffobruchar, Venice, c.1600 in Paris,
Musee de Cluny 2092
5. Lute by Stefan Pradter, Prague 1675 in Innsbruck, Schloss Ambras,
622
6. Lute by Basilio Smit, Milan, in Fuessen, Museum der Stadt
Fuessen, 4308 has a gilded rim to its triple rose.
7. Lute by Magnus Hellmer 1609 Fuessen, in Darmstadt, Hessisches
Landesmuseum, Kg 67:104
8. Anonymous lute in Bologna, Museo Civico Medievale, 1814
Best wishes,
David
At 16:11 +0200 20/6/13, Luca Manassero wrote:
Dear list,
a few years ago I saw pictures of a lute built by a well
known
british lutemaker and showing a really beautiful golden rose.
Baroque lutenists certainly know about the Allemande of Ennemond
Gaultier (Vieux Gaultier) "La roze d'or" also known as "The loss
of the
golden rose lute".
My question is: have you any news (or iconographc evidence) of
(original) lutes with a golden rose?
Thank you in advance,
Luca
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