I don't know about inadvertent, Chris, as I am quite aware of the tempo and further complications you cite - which I didn't feel like elaborating as it seemed already a little OT (all my fault for pursuing the matter ...) An even better example might be Carcassi Op 60 no 7 which was Grade 4 since the year dot and yet was probably literally never played at Allegro by Grade 4 candidates, and was removed for that reason. Carcassi Op 60 no 3 is considered a reasonably bench-mark item for grade 5.

Basically the whole thing is an approximation, and compromise and perhaps a typically British fudge, which kind of hangs together so long as everything is kept in proportion. For example, something like the Bourree as a grade 6 piece would really not, for grade 6, be expected to be played with the graduate understandings you mention, very rightly, as implications of the piece. Grade 8 btw is the point at which here at least, a candidate for a college course in guitar would be expected to have at a very high pass, preferably some time before application at 18. So grade 6 is probably two years prior to that.

Personally I have only a very tangential perspective on the performance practice concerns taken by those setting syllabi (a piece of mine is on grade 1 ... ) but from the point of view of modern guitar, most people well into their undergraduate studies are, I feel, far too slow to exercise stylistic differences between the different epochs we make a point of celebrating (from early vihuela to funny stuff from last year on the self same box). I do feel that those in charge of syllabi recognise that more differentiation would be a good thing, but there is a lot of inertia built into the system. In my teaching diploma I played some Weiss with what I thought of as a 'modern' approach to baroque, only to be roundly criticised for it (I still passed...), and they may or may not have been right but the thing is its safer not to do anything too odd, in which instance a grade exam or diploma isn't that different to a competition, where there is some pressure to conform for fear of alienating certain members of the jury ... and I'd hazard a guess that this applies well beyond the tiny world of guitar.

Stephen




On 4 Aug 2013, at 17:28, Christopher Wilke wrote:

   Stephen,
      Thank you for responding to my imbedded comment. In citing the
bourree from BWV 996, I believe you may have inadvertently chosen the
   perfect example to illustrate the ambiguity surrounding arbitrary
   performance standards.
Consider the proper tempo for the piece. Even the pros do not play
   it at true bourree tempo or feel. If at the proper speed, the
   difficulty drastically increases placing it on a difficulty level
comparable to the other movements of the suite. I wonder then how the
   appropriate grade difficulty level is assessed. Do exam graders
evaluate students on their demonstrated applied knowledge of the tempi
   and metric pulse patterns of baroque dance forms? Are they graded
according to the tempo tradition dictated by modern performers which was arrived at arbitrarily? (This particular piece should have a fairly quick 2/2 feel rather than the plodding 4/4 pulse which is has become
   the norm solely through repetition; another example of, "My teacher
plays it that way. John Williams and Julian Bream recorded it that way. I've heard it like that so often that anything else doesn't sound right to me.") Are the exam graders even expected to be familiar or concerned
   with these types of performance practice issues?
   Chris
   Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
   Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
   www.christopherwilke.com
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Stephen Kenyon <[email protected]>
   To: Christopher Wilke <[email protected]>
Cc: Dan Winheld <[email protected]>; Mark Seifert <[email protected]>;
   gary <[email protected]>; lutelist <[email protected]>
   Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:34 AM
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
Assignment to grades is certainly arbitrary and all the more so when
   the reviewer is not actually responsible for setting syllabus
   standards, so they should be saying "is roughly a grade 6 piece".
   About half the readership of the UK based Classical Guitar magazine
is UK resident, and most will have some idea of grades so its helpful
   to them to know roughly where a piece sits in grade terms.
   For many years "the" Bach Bourree (Em) was a grade 6 piece, now
   considered a bit too hard for 6.
   I think so long as folks don't forget that grading is arbitrary and
   only an outline or framework, it can be helpful, not least to avoid
   disruptive leaps in standard when setting pieces for students.
   Stephen
   On 4 Aug 2013, at 15:09, Christopher Wilke wrote:
.....
   [On a side note, I've been amused to follow the side topic that
this
   thread has spawned regarding the qualifications for grade
examiners in
   the UK. A couple of my compositions have been reviewed in British
   publications. They always say something like, "this is a Grade 6
   piece". As an American, I wonder what the heck that even means.
Despite
   the thoroughness of the system, what I've learned has done
nothing to
   dissuade me from believing that performance study is essentially
   arbitrary.]

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