Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in âForlorne Hope?" In Alonso Mudarra's Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: âThere are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well'. So it may be an over reach to assume that unusual sounds may have a high probability of being typographical errors.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][email protected] Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there! On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Alain Veylit <[3][email protected]> wrote: I personally disagree with changing the rhythm in that bar. It is perfectly fine to my ear. There is a danger in over-correcting: it can take away the original flavor of the piece. If it can fly, let it fly. If it cannot fly, try to make it fly. In any case, wrong notes should always be accented, otherwise they sound like mistakes. On 01/15/2017 08:55 AM, Rainer wrote: On 15.01.2017 16:45, Ron Andrico wrote: Rainer, it's simply a difference in the application of an accidental, which most likely is a copyist's error - or a copyist's insipid choice, if he or she was unschooled in the proper horizontal tracking of parts. It's a grave misIn any case, wrong notes should always be acccented, otake to think of lute tablatures as the embodiment of the composer's intention, and many silly mistakes can be fixed simply by thinking in horizontal parts, as our 16th-century antecedents would have done, rather than our modern concept of vertical harmonies. By the way, I also believe that the rhythm in bar 4 has to be changed: |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | |\ |. |\ | | | _c_______a__________ |_a_______a___e___a__|| |_____d___b___a______|| |_b_______c__________|| |_____________c______|| |____________________|| Otherwise it doesn't match the upbeat before bar 1 (in case you repeat the strain) and I think the second strain needs a quarter note upbeat as well. I know that many people hesitate to change anything in such cases. However, don't forget, this was not copied by Dowland. Unfortunately no other copy/version of the piece has survived. Rainer RA ________________________________ From: [4][email protected] <[5][email protected]> on behalf of Matthew Daillie <[6][email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:20 PM To: Rainer; Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing Dear Rainer, It doesn't sound awfully wrong to me. Furthermore, if you play just the bass line you will see that the voice moves in exactly the same fashion in bars 5 and 6. Best, Matthew On 15/01/2017 14:00, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, please note that the tablature snippets in this mail may look very strange if you do not use a fixed font or - much worse - your mail client wraps after 80 bytes. I am currently playing through the music supplement 100 (English Lute Society) and noticed some thing I had not noticed before. CLM 56 appears as |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | | |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |\ | | | _d__ _c_______a___________a__ _f_______d___c__ _d___c___a___h___f___d__ _c_______a__________ _a__|_a_______a___e_______a__|_c___e___a___a__|_a___________d_______ ___|_a_______a___e___a__| ____|_____d___b___a__________|________________|_____________________ ___|_____d___b___a______| _c__|_b_______c___________c__|_e___________b__|_____________f_______ ___|_a_______c__________| ____|_____________c___a______|_____________c__|_____________________ ___|_____________c______| ____|_____________________d__|_c_______a______|_a___________d_______ ___|____________________| in the Poulton edition (1974) and in John's version in the supplement. I think it must be changed to (bar 4) |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ |\ | | |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |. |\ | |. |\ | |. |\ | | | _d__ _c_______a___________a__ _f_______d___c__ _d___c___a___h___f___d__ _c_______a__________ _a__|_a_______a___e_______a__|_c___e___a___a__|_a___________d_______ ___|_a_______a___e___a__| ____|_____d___b___a__________|________________|_____________________ ___|_____d___b___a______| _c__|_b_______c___________c__|_e___________b__|_____________f_______ ___|_b_______c__________| ____|_____________c___a______|_____________c__|_____________________ ___|_____________c______| ____|_____________________d__|_c_______a______|_a___________d_______ ___|____________________| 1) It sounds awfully wrong 2) Dowland did not write such harmonies - Cutting did :) 3) compare bar 2 What do you think? 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