This is so sad to hear. Why oh why are there always people feeding off the achievements of others? And why are there always people believing that this should be the natural order? When your dollar breaks, after some dire and uncomfortable time (which will be eased by unplugged Early Music...), we will hopefully have understood.

Am 04.01.2018 um 18:50 schrieb guy_and_liz Smith:
Unfortunately, Seattle has become a victim of its success, much like San 
Francisco (and for many of the same reasons). Along with the good stuff you 
also have absurd housing costs, horrible traffic, ... We lived there for almost 
30 years, and it was fun while it lasted, but when I retired we decided to move 
somewhere a little calmer. We are still within driving distance though, and 
it’s a great place to visit.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 6:07 PM
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Early Music life

Wow! Seattle seems to really have something, I'm always amazed how much cool 
stuff comes from there.


Am 03.01.2018 um 19:23 schrieb guy_and_liz Smith:
Pacific MusicWorks in Seattle (Steve Stubbs org) has been doing "underground" concerts in a 
variety of venues, including my favorite brewpub, Naked City Brewery, in the Greenwood neighborhood. 
Worth going to just for the beer, but if you hit the right night, you can have some early music to go 
along with it. 
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That said, I now live in Port Townsend, which is far enough from Seattle (and 
on the wrong side of Puget Sound, to boot) to get to any of them.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
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Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 10:08 AM
To: Tristan von Neumann
Cc: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Early Music life

     Hi Tristan
     I personally didn't study music at university to end up playing
     elevator music in Renaissance Fairs.   I think as serious musicians, it
     is our duty to continue our efforts in educating the public.   And
     medieval faires is not the way to do it.   I therefore disagree with
     the original post about awkward concert situations. Yes informal
     playing is good, but it limits the amount of people who can become
     educated about the music we love.   Concerts with themes and story
     telling is by far the best approach, as well as workshops.   I belong a
     to a Non - profit organization in Montreal, composed of musicians who
     have studied in Basel, and have performed all over; we organize
     workshops and concerts with a different subject each year.   It
     doensn't attract a lot of people, and the occasional medieval fair
     aficionado shows up ( thinking its going to be another medieval fair..)
     but the response is great, people are so happy to learn about the
     different periods.
     you can see what we do at
     
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     Bruno

     2018-01-03 12:54 GMT-05:00 Tristan von Neumann
     <[2][email protected]>:

       Don't bother Bruno, it's the same here in Germany with the Medieval
       Faires. They claim to cover 13th-15th century, and succeed when it
       comes to housewares, clothing and swordfighting. When it comes to
       music, you consider yourself lucky hearing Susato or Attaignant.
       If you played some Ars Subtilior songs, you would probably be burned
       at the stake.
       Most music is basically techno with shawms, bagpipes, and massive
       drums, though this is kind of a fun genre that developed there...

     Am 03.01.2018 um 18:46 schrieb Bruno Cognyl-Fournier:

         Hi
         I live in Montreal and play Medieval and Renaissance music.    Had
     a
         medieval music group for 15 years or so, and frankly I got tired of
         dressing up and going to medieval fairs and banquets, where no-one
         really cares about real medieval music, and just wants background
         noise. Most people who go to these fairs and banquets have no clue
     as
         to what medieval music is, and want everyhing from Thoineau Arbault
         Bransle des Chevaux to Lorrena McKennit celtic music.    They have
     no
         clue about Cantigas de Santa Maria, Trouvere and troubadour music,
     and
         never mind if you should even attempt to play some Trecento music.
          I now only play in concert situations, and organize workshops
     together
         with a bunch of friends, to educate the people.. and I no longer
     dress
         up..
         Back in university some 40 years ago, it was fun to go play in
     medieval
         and renaissance banquets..     no longer is the case for me
         Bruno
         2018-01-03 11:46 GMT-05:00 Samuel Lawson <[1][3][email protected]>:
           Hallo, Tristan et al.
           I play a 16th-century-style 8-course lute.
           I live in Indianapolis, IN, USA. My wife and I perform at
           some renaissance faires [sic] and Scottish Highland games.
           While Renaissance Faire music tends toward novelty songs, I
           am adamant on including a handful of John Dowland,
           Pickeringe, and some tunes from the Scottish lutebooks
           Straloch and Rowallan.
           I am also called upon for the occasional wedding and school
           events.
           Cheers,
           Samuel J. Lawson
           On Wed, 3 Jan 2018, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
           Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 14:41:57 +0100
           From: Tristan von Neumann <[2][4][email protected]>
           To: lutelist Net <[3][5][email protected]>

             Subject: [LUTE] Early Music life
             Happy New Year to all who are on the European calendar.
             Here's one question - is there any noticeable Early Music life
       going
             on in your
             neighborhood, besides the 19th/20th century concert context
       (which I
             always find
             a bit awkward)?
             Ever heard of a bar where there are Early Music jam sessions?
             Have you ever seen Early music picknicks in the park or in the
             woods?
             Do you play table music at your own private dinner parties?
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